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Old 04-26-2012, 01:05 PM   #136
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What is the full story, If there are no TV dates left after the 20 given to Matchroom and the 4 given to Maloney then its bang out of order, if there are dates that are still open to pitch for and the best cards gets accepted then that can only be a good thing surely?
I found out about a week ago but didn't know the numbers until yesterday. As I posted a few days ago, the boxing budget at Sky has been halved so I don't expect there will be any additional domestic shows.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:05 PM   #137
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Its a bit shitty that Sky have just got rid of Hatton and I would have preferred that they gave him a deal, but boxing is a business and some of Sky's biggest critics love to roll out that line at every opportunity - so spare me the morality argument. It doesnt matter that Hatton was their biggest fighter etc, doesnt mean shit and is irrelevant. Boxing is a business, remember.

But, Matchroom are without a shadow of a doubt the best promoter in the UK and have put on the best fights and shows, so I am glad they are in the ascendency.

If it werent for David Price, Maloney would have been a goner as well, his cards have been the worst and once he eventually leaves the scene he will not be missed in the slightest.

I would like to see next generation of promoters doing under cards for some of Hearns shows i.e. Spencer Fearon, Dave Coldwell and also in Ireland, Brian Peters. If Hearn can collaborate with his output, then overall this isnt such a bad thing. But time will tell, so lets give steady Eddie a chance to deliver and I think he will.
Spot on,i was going to make along post saying exactly the same thing
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:12 PM   #138
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I found out about a week ago but didn't know the numbers until yesterday. As I posted a few days ago, the boxing budget at Sky has been halved so I don't expect there will be any additional domestic shows.
If that's the case then that's terrible, I like Hearn as a promoter but to give him that much leeway and monopoly over the sport is worrying, I hope Hatton gets a good gig and sticks two fingers up to sky, if he don't then sky have basically ruined his stable of fighters, shocking treatment.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:16 PM   #139
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make of this what you will, but there is a rumour circulating that FW has been talking to other broadcasters...
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:20 PM   #140
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He's only just set up Boxnation

Wouldn't mind if Boxnation stopped the domestic stuff though and just provided us with overseas fights. I'm sure a lot more would subscribe as well seen as many on here are put off by Frank's involvement in the channel

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On the Hatton thing...wasn't Adam Smith telling Hearn on the Brook/Hatton card that they want Quigg/Frampton. How the ****s that fight going to happen now if Hatton Promotions aren't with Sky anymore. ****ing mongs.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:22 PM   #141
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He's only just set up Boxnation
exactly. I hope this doesn't signal the end.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:24 PM   #142
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He's only just set up Boxnation

Wouldn't mind if Boxnation stopped the domestic stuff though and just provided us with overseas fights. I'm sure a lot more would subscribe as well seen as many on here are put off by Frank's involvement in the channel
You hit the nail on the head Ishy, I have re-subscribed but thats due to the oversea fights, when Frank announces his stable's upcoming match-ups the temptation is always there to say bollocks Im not paying. Boxnation would be better if he wasn't involved and I honestly believe that.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:24 PM   #143
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I am not surprised. He should have been in matchroom postion with 20 dates.
Frank chatting to Channel 5?
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:30 PM   #144
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Hearn is getting his feet under the table far to much with Sky and what has got him his popularity is putting him main assets i.e Froch, Barker in against the best (Or atleast talks about) but with him having all these dates now he will be wanting to protect his best assets and draw them out to a big ppv like we are seeing with Brook.

Also i am hoping loads of fighters don't switch to Matchroom as i don't think Eddie Hearn having leverage on Sky is a good thing....Sky should be calling the shots not him!
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:36 PM   #145
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They should at least have gave Hatton a couple of dates so he could fill them with his best fighters.
I'd take that over a journeymen Prizefighter show.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:37 PM   #146
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exactly. I hope this doesn't signal the end.
19,000 subscribers is unsustainable (if it is even that). FW put on a couple of great shows before the channel moved to a subscription channel but since then his shows have been poor.

Groves, Degale, Cleverly, Burns - where is the exciting match ups for these guys? These are his best fighters.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #147
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Frank's piece about the lack of boxing on the BBC in The Sun a few weeks ago makes perfect sense if he is indeed talking to a terrestrial channel. That said, he could just be trying to flog a highlights show.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:44 PM   #148
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On the Hatton thing...wasn't Adam Smith telling Hearn on the Brook/Hatton card that they want Quigg/Frampton. How the ****s that fight going to happen now if Hatton Promotions aren't with Sky anymore. ****ing mongs.
I think that we'll see a lot of this type of thing happening...instead of quality fights we'll just get in-stable fights instead. It should make purse bids interesting at the very least.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:51 PM   #149
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Hearn is fast turning into a poison.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:56 PM   #150
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I'm pretty certain that Allegedly won't be giving up on Boxnation just yet, having invested 2m of his own money in the venture.

The days where he used to receive a yearly 1m ''consultation fee'' from Sky are long gone though.
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