What if... Hagler VS Leonard II - Page 2

TBooze · 07-06-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fists of fury

He won all his rematches is what I mean.

And I mean another Sugar Ray may disagree with the above statement

fists of fury · 07-06-2007, 09:46 AM

Robinson? Possibly...but what does that have to do with the topic?

redrooster · 07-06-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Boricua - TLH

I meant if you could match them, proportionally speaking, against each other. Say... as if Lewis would fight SRR both being MW or HW respectively... A HW fighter with SRR's speed, style and power against Lewis or vice-versa... The same with Leonard VS Hagler...

But if it's based on resumes and achievements I obviously take Leonard over Hagler... As well as have SRR at all time # 1...

hagler was a much better fighter p4p. Even on Leonard's best days, there's just not much there to speak of. Leonard struggled with kalule, Howard, Hearns both times, lost to Duran, the long overdue fight with Hagler was inconclusive, and he lost badly to Norris which, he wasn't even supposed to lose.

P4P Hagler is top ten. Leonard is only top 50. I can think of so many fighters of his generation who were so much more deserving.

GazOC · 07-06-2007, 09:50 AM

I had Leonard winning the first fight, mainly due to Haglers lack of urgency during the first 4 rounds. I think in a re-match Hagler would apply the pressure earlier and get a decision or very late TKO.

TBooze · 07-06-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fists of fury

Robinson? Possibly...but what does that have to do with the topic?

No not Robinson

Holmes' Jab · 07-06-2007, 09:52 AM

SRL, by UD.

Boricua - TLH · 07-06-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

No not Robinson

If you mean Seales... hagler won the first... The re-match was a Draw... but Hagler won all the his rematches (meaning he lost the first fight)... However he TKO'd Seales in their third fight... Impressed?

TBooze · 07-06-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Boricua - TLH

If you mean Seales... hagler won the first... The re-match was a Draw... but Hagler won all the his rematches (meaning he lost the first fight)... However he TKO'd Seales in their third fight... Impressed?

Impressed

Boricua - TLH · 07-06-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

Impressed

Hey, I'm young but I do know my history...

GazOC · 07-06-2007, 10:01 AM

Seales was pretty much blind at the time....

TBooze · 07-06-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Boricua - TLH

Hey, I'm young but I do know my history...

Right then...

Here is one then history man

Who is the only fighter to beat and lose a fight to Rocky Marciano?

Boricua - TLH · 07-06-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

Right then...

Here is one then history man

Who is the only fighter to beat and lose a fight to Rocky Marciano?

That's a good one! See when Rocky died, I wasn't even born. In fact, my parents were still in junior highschool... I'll take a guess and say... hmm... Lee Savold??

TBooze · 07-06-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Boricua - TLH

That's a good one! See when Rocky died, I wasn't even born. In fact, my parents were still in junior highschool... I'll take a guess and say... hmm... Lee Savold??

I was not born either! But no it was not Savold...

Boricua - TLH · 07-06-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

I was not born either! But no it was not Savold...

Well, do you mean as a amateur or as a Pro??

rekcutnevets · 07-06-2007, 11:06 AM

I'd go with Hagler by decision. Ray had problems with Hagler as a southpaw, and at times when Hagler attacked him. I think Hagler would see his mistakes on film, correct them, and win the rematch.

I believe Hagler was a little passive at first, as larger fighters sometimes are. Sometimes the bigger guy looks like he has some kind of attitude suggesting he should be winning because he is bigger. Holmes looked similar in this regard when he first faced Spinks. In Holmes, and Haglers, cases; they threw away to many rounds smiling and not fighting their best.

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rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,550 vCash: 1000	Re: What if... Hagler VS Leonard II I'd go with Hagler by decision. Ray had problems with Hagler as a southpaw, and at times when Hagler attacked him. I think Hagler would see his mistakes on film, correct them, and win the rematch. I believe Hagler was a little passive at first, as larger fighters sometimes are. Sometimes the bigger guy looks like he has some kind of attitude suggesting he should be winning because he is bigger. Holmes looked similar in this regard when he first faced Spinks. In Holmes, and Haglers, cases; they threw away to many rounds smiling and not fighting their best.
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