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Old 05-02-2012, 09:21 PM   #46
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Chavez beat no one elite... and got a controversial draw against Whitaker who in my mind tapped Chavez's ass 9-3 easy.
Chavez beat Meldrick Taylor, Roger Mayweather 2x, Rocky Lockridge, Hector Camacho,

Floyd got a gift FIXED win by DelaHoya (Delahoya vs Mayweather was a FIXED FIGHT), so that Delahoya would co-promote him to future fights.

Floyd ducked Antonio Margarito many times.
Chavez NEVER ducked anyone.

Whitaker ran and would not put up a fight.
In Texas, you either put up or shut up.
Texans like brawlere not runners. Thats why Malignaggi didnt get the win against Juan Diaz there.
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Chavez beat Meldrick Taylor, Roger Mayweather 2x, Rocky Lockridge, Hector Camacho,

Floyd got a gift FIXED win by DelaHoya (Delahoya vs Mayweather was a FIXED FIGHT), so that Delahoya would co-promote him to future fights.

Floyd ducked Antonio Margarito many times.
Chavez NEVER ducked anyone.

Whitaker ran and would not put up a fight.
In Texas, you either put up or shut up.
Texans like brawlere not runners. Thats why Malignaggi didnt get the win against Juan Diaz there.
lol...to many flaws...Floyd did not duck Tony btw.

Your post is very flawed...consensus view dissagrees with you.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #48
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lol...to many flaws...Floyd did not duck Tony btw.

Your post is very flawed...consensus view dissagrees with you.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:58 PM   #49
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Its sad how many people are saying Mayweather's is way better. He is my favorite fighter of the era and i think noone below 154 will beat him but in a H2H match up this would be an even fight not a wide UD in favor of either fighter. Chavez isn't the typical mexican brawler he applies educated aggression and for those saying he fough cab drivers in the beginning you gotta compare that Chavez didnt have an amateur career while Mayweather had a great one so Chavez was learning in the pro ranks.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:01 AM   #50
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Mayweather was beating legitimate world champions only 18 fights deep into his career.

Chavez resume is actually really underwhelming IMO considering how many fights he actually had. The Rosario fight was extremely impressive and by far his best performance ever. Great win, No Doubt. JLR. Meldrick Taylor was just starting to hit his stride and took him to school. Robbed, so badly, although you have to respect Chavez for going all out to get that stoppage until the last second. Camacho as stated, was fairly past it. Other wins over Juan LaPorte (iron chin), Ruben Castillo, Uncle Roger. Good contenders/titlists, not exactly ATG comp.

I still give Chavez the edge based on activity alone, but it's not so ridiculous. MVC just puts it in a way that is going to bring Floyd even more hate and disregard.
If you think Taylor took him to school you have to rewatch the fight imho. It look like Taylor was beating Chavez badly but if you look closely alot of those combinations were hiiting air and the gloves, which is why Chavez was able to keep applying pressure til the end because he was not beaten up. and if you think the stoppage was unfair you gotta think more about the fighters health but that can be a whole other thread
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:04 AM   #51
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Chavez beat no one elite... and got a controversial draw against Whitaker who in my mind tapped Chavez's ass 9-3 easy.
ban this ****ing idiot please
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:09 AM   #52
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Chavez beat Meldrick Taylor, Roger Mayweather 2x, Rocky Lockridge, Hector Camacho,

Floyd got a gift FIXED win by DelaHoya (Delahoya vs Mayweather was a FIXED FIGHT), so that Delahoya would co-promote him to future fights.

Floyd ducked Antonio Margarito many times.
Chavez NEVER ducked anyone.

Whitaker ran and would not put up a fight.
In Texas, you either put up or shut up.
Texans like brawlere not runners. Thats why Malignaggi didnt get the win against Juan Diaz there.
he also took Jose Luis Ramirez to school and took his WBC title - Ramirez being 101 wins 6 losses

as well as taking Edwin Rosarios WBA title

while mayweather went to war with henry brussels and chop chop corley
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:17 AM   #53
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Another ORGY thread?

Can the *****s not start anything not resembling this? It makes me puke to open ESB.
How in the **** is this an "orgy thread"? Did you even bother to read any of the responses? Obviously not.

If it makes you puke to open ESB, why don't you **** off then? Clearly nobody wants you here.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:23 AM   #54
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people are too easily wow by big record. A lot of people don't realize that mexico doesn't have a great amatuer program and most mexican fighters learn on the job and fought bums as a pro till they get good. Of course Floyd Jr record towers over Chavez's.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:26 AM   #55
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How in the **** is this an "orgy thread"? Did you even bother to read any of the responses? Obviously not.

If it makes you puke to open ESB, why don't you **** off then? Clearly nobody wants you here.
Anyone wanting me is immaterial to why I am in ESB.


I am not like you who craves to be wanted all the time, so you joined the *****land, where they pat each other's back for their idiocy telling each other how great their posts are.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:27 AM   #56
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People are so busy nut hugging Chavez's "LEGENDARY" 87-0. Floyd's 42-0 is by far and away much more legit...

people are too easily wow by big record. A lot of people don't realize that mexico doesn't have a great amatuer program and most mexican fighters learn on the job and fought bums as a pro till they get good. Of course Floyd Jr record towers over Chavez's.

Agreed
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:30 AM   #57
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Anyone wanting me is immaterial to why I am in ESB.
You said it makes you puke to open this site and you and I both know for a fact that nobody else wants your gay ass here, so why in the **** are you here?
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:32 AM   #58
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I dont agree that Mayweather's is way better. i would say they're about even with Mayweather having the chance to make it better but you make a good point about Mexican fighters learning the job in the Pros. I think in an interview even Marquez stated that the best age to become a pro is a 16-17 when most boxers barely start learning the sport at that age in other countries
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:49 AM   #59
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If you think Taylor took him to school you have to rewatch the fight imho. It look like Taylor was beating Chavez badly but if you look closely alot of those combinations were hiiting air and the gloves, which is why Chavez was able to keep applying pressure til the end because he was not beaten up. and if you think the stoppage was unfair you gotta think more about the fighters health but that can be a whole other thread
Maybe I do. It's been a solid five years or so. He was up on the cards and JCC was not going to lay another glove on him in the time left in the fight. The ****ed up thing about it is that he had already sustained permanent damage anyway and wasnt even given the satisfaction of the win he went ***** out for and gave up his prime for. Taylor couldve been great and I feel for him. **** smells real foul considering Tyson had just lost to Douglas and King's other prize horse was about to lose that 0.

MT had some of the fastest hands in history, but they didnt pack a whole lot of power aside from overwhelming opponents by accumulation. Chavez had such a chin that he could walk through virtually anybody's shots and keep coming, like a Cyborg. (did it to Rosario and proceeded to beat the **** out of him).
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:18 AM   #60
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Wow, I'm guessing the other guy never expected that!

j/k I liked your post... i just have a juvenile sense of humor.

funny thing, he didnt...i asked my trainer afterwards and he told me...he is only two years older than me so we'd talk **** and he tried to teach me a lesson, which he did but damn...good thing i kept my cool and followed the plan
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