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Old 07-04-2007, 04:15 PM   #1
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Default In the last 30 years- p4p whose better than Sugar Ray Leonard

i think the guy is the best fighter i have seen

he had everything. speed, power heart, skills. complete package and fought in a great era

who in the last 30 years was better than him?
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:19 PM   #2
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Roberto Duran possibly. P4P.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:23 PM   #3
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Arguably is all you can say, cause....well its Leonard, so.

But p4p you could make an arguement for.

Duran
Whitaker
Sanchez (if not for the accident)
RJJ
Floyd

I may be forgetting a few that are in the area of, but noone you could say without a doubt.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:34 PM   #4
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But p4p you could make an arguement for.

Duran
Whitaker
Sanchez (if not for the accident)
RJJ
Floyd
You can certainly make arguments for all of them, although besides Duran, I rate SRL higher than the other 4.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:53 PM   #5
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Floyd? Look at his level of competition in comparison to SRL.

SRL: Haggler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez...

Floyd: DLH, Corrales, Castillo, Judah...

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Old 07-04-2007, 04:54 PM   #6
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Floyd? Look at his level of competition in comparison to SRL.

SRL: Haggler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez...

Floyd: DLH, Corrales, Castillo, Judah...

Die-hard Floyd fans will certainly try to present their case
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:57 PM   #7
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Default Re: In the last 30 years- p4p whose better than Sugar Ray Leonard

Honestly, since 1977, the only boxers that could arguably be better P4P than Leonard are Hagler and Whitaker. Duran's dominance at lightweight play a huge part in his P4P ranking for me, so I don't include him. If it was the past 40 years, it would easily be Duran.

Leonard is #1 for me the past 30 years.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:57 PM   #8
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Floyd? Look at his level of competition in comparison to SRL.

SRL: Haggler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez...

Floyd: DLH, Corrales, Castillo, Judah...

Like I said, make an arguement...not that he was better. Floyd is faster, had better defense, etc. His resume tho is not even close.

Of those names, I only really believe Whitaker and Duran are close. Just pointing out that there are a few at or around that level.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:00 PM   #9
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Like I said, make an arguement...not that he was better. Floyd is faster, had better defense, etc. His resume tho is not even close.

Of those names, I only really believe Whitaker and Duran are close. Just pointing out that there are a few at or around that level.
I know, you were bringing up possibles. My response wasnt so much for you, just for what I know is coming.

SRL and Duran kick Floyd´s ass, legacy wise and head to head.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:00 PM   #10
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The only person I think who has a strong case to be better p4p than Leonard in the last 30 years is Whitaker. Hagler has no case, Duran has some case. Leonard had an incredible career.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:01 PM   #11
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Calzaghe.
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Calzaghe.


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Old 07-04-2007, 05:03 PM   #13
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Calzaghe.
End of discussion

20 defenses of his WBO title with wins over Jeff Lacy (who is better than Hagler), Chris Eubank (who is better than Hearns), Robin Reid (who is better than Benitez), Peter Manfredo Jr (who is better than Duran), Mario Veit, Omar Sheika, and Charles Brewer...

Simply put, a much better resume than Ray Leonard
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:08 PM   #14
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Considering Duran's lightweight days were over 30 years ago, Whitaker has the best case with titles at 135, 140, 147, and 154. However, his wins over Azumah Nelson, Jose Luis Ramirez, Julio Cesar Vasquez, Buddy McGirt, and Jorge Paez (should have had a win over Chavez) fall short of Leonard's dramatic wins over Hagler and Hearns and his two other greatest wins over Duran and Benitez. But Whitaker's longevity, length as a champion, and more wins over high quality opponents make a case very presentable.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:13 PM   #15
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Floyd is not faster than SRL...
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