Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop? - Page 4

zoley · 05-04-2012, 04:03 AM

[quote=casian72;12732752]Look at the video carefully. When the punch lands Oscar's body is lifted into the air, both feet leave the floor at the same time. As soon as his feet the floor again he collapses. Typical reaction for a well placed body punch from a bigger fighter. Although the punching the floor was all theatrics. Remember he was a boxer/"singer"/"actor"/promoter.[/quote

Cobra33 · 05-04-2012, 09:55 AM

He took a dive.Bernard was starting to land more and De La Hoya looked for a way out.Ive seen ALOT of bodyshots and never seen ANYONE react like that.When you get hit with one you do not beat on the canvas with your fists-show me ONE other fight where someone gets hit with a wicked bodyshot and then beats on the ring apron or else stfu.

Jeff M · 05-04-2012, 09:58 AM

Some people also claim Dapidran/Oscar was a fixed fight. They had a conspiracy theory. I exposed the fags in a thread.

IntentionalButt · 05-04-2012, 10:00 AM

Some of the topics that get seriously debated on ESB...

"Did the phantom punch even actually land?

" (y'know, aside from when it clearly did as shown by multiple angles and speeds on film)

"That body shot DLH received from Hopkins didn't really hurt that bad, right?

" (y'know, the one that made him writhe convulsively and sob like a stricken housewife and poo himself)

"Torrecampo knocked out Pacquiao with a blatant low blow nut shot, didn't he?

" (y'know, aside from being a flush punch straight to the literal chin)

"Likar Ramos must have been acting; nobody falls down like that! Do they?

" (y'know, especially seeing as Marquez totally pulled that little feather duster slap that he caught him squarely with...)

Jeff M · 05-04-2012, 10:02 AM

Do people think Oscar shitting himself was part of the plan too?

IntentionalButt · 05-04-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff M

Do people think Oscar shitting himself was part of the plan too?

They wanted to endear him to the male demographic (majority among boxing fans), who resented him for his pretty boy image and the adoration of all their girlfriends.

It made him seem more "one of the fellas". We all shit ourselves at the office sometimes, right?

Big publicity stunt.

Jeff M · 05-04-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

They wanted to endear him to the male demographic (majority among boxing fans), who resented him for his pretty boy image and the adoration of all their girlfriends.

It made him seem more "one of the fellas". We all shit ourselves at the office sometimes, right?

Big publicity stunt.

sbbigmike · 05-04-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Malden

Maybe because of the guy yelling "bodyshot" before it happens?

this was the most obvious fixed fight of our time

Caelum · 05-04-2012, 10:06 AM

He didn't take a dive. I heard he was crying in the locker-room as well because he was a Man that was to proud to be knocked out. Oscar's chin was Iron and always confident in taking a punch so if he was KO'd that way, it would have been interesting to see how he would react. Being knocked out by a body-shot surely surprised him.

That said, look at Bernard Hopkins, a full fledged MW, jump for joy like he won the lottery by beating a former LW, WW at his best...Oscar De La Hoya.

Seriously, calm yourself and act like you were there before. Act like you were supposed to win.

IntentionalButt · 05-04-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sbbigmike

this was the most obvious fixed fight of our time

Lurk more.

IntentionalButt · 05-04-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Caelum

He didn't take a dive.

That said, look at Bernard Hopkins, a full fledged MW, jump for joy like he won the lottery by beating a former LW, WW at his best...Oscar De La Hoya.

Seriously, calm yourself and act like you were there before. Act like you were supposed to win.

Suppose you're right.

That isn't even the first time he vanquished a fellow surefire Hall of Famer.

(albeit an itty-bitty one next to him)

Was his celebration that extravagant after Tito?

Caelum · 05-04-2012, 10:12 AM

[quote=zoley;12732836]

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Originally Posted by casian72

Look at the video carefully. When the punch lands Oscar's body is lifted into the air, both feet leave the floor at the same time. As soon as his feet the floor again he collapses. Typical reaction for a well placed body punch from a bigger fighter. Although the punching the floor was all theatrics. Remember he was a boxer/"singer"/"actor"/promoter.[/quote

I think he was just pissed and upset like..."is this serious...a F****** body shot did this to me ?? "

Hitting him to the body was perfect. Oscar can take a big shot to the head even from bigger guys but to the body, he still has that WW body.

sbbigmike · 05-04-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Lurk more.

After the fight, Then all of a sudden Hopkins is ODH business partner and the new face of GB who they clearly were trying to showcase at that time. Oscar was simply insuring that his company succeeds and he pass the baton to him, to simply line up his pockets in case of a future RJJ rematch. People have to remember this wasn't Oscar the fighter at that point but Oscar the promoter

IntentionalButt · 05-04-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sbbigmike

After the fight, Then all of a sudden Hopkins is ODH business partner and the new face of GB who they clearly were trying to showcase at that time. Oscar was simply insuring that his company succeeds and he pass the baton to him, to simply line up his pockets in case of a future RJJ rematch. People have to remember this wasn't Oscar the fighter at that point but Oscar the promoter

This is around the same time he and the rest of the power elite began designs on the FEMA death camps, yes?

sbbigmike · 05-04-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

This is around the same time he and the rest of the power elite began designs on the FEMA death camps, yes?

don't try that with me.

05-04-2012, 04:03 AM	#46
zoley Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 430 vCash: 500	Re: Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop? [quote=casian72;12732752]Look at the video carefully. When the punch lands Oscar's body is lifted into the air, both feet leave the floor at the same time. As soon as his feet the floor again he collapses. Typical reaction for a well placed body punch from a bigger fighter. Although the punching the floor was all theatrics. Remember he was a boxer/"singer"/"actor"/promoter.[/quote
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05-04-2012, 09:55 AM	#47
Cobra33 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,403 vCash: 1000	Re: Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop? He took a dive.Bernard was starting to land more and De La Hoya looked for a way out.Ive seen ALOT of bodyshots and never seen ANYONE react like that.When you get hit with one you do not beat on the canvas with your fists-show me ONE other fight where someone gets hit with a wicked bodyshot and then beats on the ring apron or else stfu.
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05-04-2012, 09:58 AM	#48
Jeff M Future ESB HOF East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Buckeye State Posts: 15,724 vCash: 664	Re: Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop? Some people also claim Dapidran/Oscar was a fixed fight. They had a conspiracy theory. I exposed the fags in a thread.
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05-04-2012, 10:00 AM	#49
IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,230 vCash: 9953	Re: Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop? Some of the topics that get seriously debated on ESB... "Did the phantom punch even actually land? " (y'know, aside from when it clearly did as shown by multiple angles and speeds on film) "That body shot DLH received from Hopkins didn't really hurt that bad, right? " (y'know, the one that made him writhe convulsively and sob like a stricken housewife and poo himself) "Torrecampo knocked out Pacquiao with a blatant low blow nut shot, didn't he? " (y'know, aside from being a flush punch straight to the literal chin) "Likar Ramos must have been acting; nobody falls down like that! Do they? " (y'know, especially seeing as Marquez totally pulled that little feather duster slap that he caught him squarely with...)
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05-04-2012, 10:02 AM	#50
Jeff M Future ESB HOF East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Buckeye State Posts: 15,724 vCash: 664	Re: Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop? Do people think Oscar shitting himself was part of the plan too?
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05-04-2012, 10:06 AM	#54
Caelum Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,278 vCash: 500	Re: Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop? He didn't take a dive. I heard he was crying in the locker-room as well because he was a Man that was to proud to be knocked out. Oscar's chin was Iron and always confident in taking a punch so if he was KO'd that way, it would have been interesting to see how he would react. Being knocked out by a body-shot surely surprised him. That said, look at Bernard Hopkins, a full fledged MW, jump for joy like he won the lottery by beating a former LW, WW at his best...Oscar De La Hoya. Seriously, calm yourself and act like you were there before. Act like you were supposed to win.
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