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Old 05-05-2012, 09:58 AM   #1
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Default ROY JONES Says Mayweather Does Not Need Pacquiao!

states that pacquiao must truly defeat Marquez before becoming relevant again
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And that's RJJ's take...on relevance. Next up, he'll talk about the perils of fighting past one's prime.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:02 AM   #3
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And Pacquiao doesn't need Mayweather...


Pacquiao Marquez is just pointless now.

I have it 1 win Pac, 1 draw and 1 win Marquez
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:04 AM   #4
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It'd just be another underdog HOF'er on Floyd's resume.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:05 AM   #5
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In my opinion he doesn't. Nor does Pacquiao need Mayweather. Just because some fans want to see it doesn't mean it has to happen. Both guys are hall of famers with or without the fight.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:16 AM   #6
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They both need each other to cement themselves as alltime greats, yes they are both hall of famers but the game needs to have the best fighting the best, neither can clain true greatness without them fighting each other.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:18 AM   #7
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They both need each other to cement themselves as alltime greats, yes they are both hall of famers but the game needs to have the best fighting the best, neither can clain true greatness without them fighting each other.
They're both all time greats already
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They're both all time greats already
but that greatness is tainted if they don't make the most meaningful fight of this era
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:22 AM   #9
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True..and Jones definitely didn't need Tarver... I understand
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:24 AM   #10
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but that greatness is tainted if they don't make the most meaningful fight of this era
Was the most meaningful fight 2 years ago, not anymore

Now the only reason people still want to watch it is because of the energy they invested into it before, for old times sake kind of thing.

Pac would be heavy underdog, just like Cotto is now

But if Floyd struggles against Cotto, that probably will change
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Was the most meaningful fight 2 years ago, not anymore

Now the only reason people still want to watch it is because of the energy they invested into it before, for old times sake kind of thing.

Pac would be heavy underdog, just like Cotto is now

But if Floyd struggles against Cotto, that probably will change
yep. agree with all of that.

just goes to show how the sport can suffer when the 'titles' offered by disjointed federations mean nothing to fighters who become bigger than any strap, and then decide they dont feel like fighting each other.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:27 AM   #12
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I love Roy(no ****) but he's the epitome of ****ty career decisions.
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They're both all time greats already

For the sake of boxing they should fight each other and stop ****ing around, I honestly think Manny is scared of FM.


ALI - FRAZIER

ALI- FOREMAN

LEONARD - HEARNS, DURAN, HAGLER

These types of fights bestow legendary status on fighters, winners and losers.

They have to get it on.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:29 AM   #14
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For the sake of boxing they should fight each other and stop ****ing around, I honestly think Manny is scared of FM.


ALI - FRAZIER

ALI- FOREMAN

LEONARD - HEARNS, DURAN, HAGLER

These types of fights bestow legendary status on fighters, winners and losers.

They have to get it on.
they should have too...but fighters nowadays can continue making mega-bucks while writing their own scripts.

that isn't going to change until boxing has one federation...which isn't likely to happen.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:29 AM   #15
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yep. agree with all of that.

just goes to show how the sport can suffer when the 'titles' offered by disjointed federations mean nothing to fighters who become bigger than any strap, and then decide they dont feel like fighting each other.
True, if there was only the WBC belt they would have been forced to fight each other already, as they wouldn't have been able to hide behind other belts and catchweights ect...

Although there is no guarantee that either would have been able to rise through the weights so effectively
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