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Old 05-08-2012, 06:58 AM   #1
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Default What is your HW top 10 at the moment?

Feel free to post more than just 10 if you wish. Also you dont just have to base it on who has the bigger wins at the moment but also your own opinion of who is better.
  1. Wlad
  2. Vitali
  3. Haye
  4. Povetkin
  5. Pulev
  6. Chambers
  7. Boytsov
  8. Adamek
  9. Thompson
  10. Fury
  11. Mitchell
  12. Solis
  13. Chagaev
  14. Helenius
  15. Price
  16. Ustinov
  17. Chisora
  18. Dimitrenko
  19. Arreola
  20. Stiverne
  21. Glazkov
  22. Abdusalamov
  23. Jennings
  24. Johnson
  25. Wallisch

Please post your own list, and feel free to comment on mine.
Mine is by no means perfect.
Don't just say i'm wrong and call me a retard, explain why if you disagree.

I found Chisora really hard to rate as his ability is rated more on how well he did in fights he lost rather than his wins.

Also if anyone is missing that may be an oversight rather than because i dont think he deserves to be there.

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Old 05-08-2012, 07:08 AM   #2
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Wlad
Vitali
Povietkin
Adamek
Chambers
Pulev
Helenius
Fury
Thompson
Price
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:09 AM   #3
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chisora 8 places behind helenius...the guy we all know he whooped?
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:11 AM   #4
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Feel free to post more than just 10 if you wish. Also you dont just have to base it on who has the bigger wins at the moment but also your own opinion of who is better.
  1. Wlad
  2. Vitali
  3. Haye
  4. Povetkin
  5. Pulev
  6. Chambers
  7. Boytsov
  8. Adamek
  9. Thompson
  10. Fury
  11. Mitchell
  12. Solis
  13. Chagaev
  14. Helenius
  15. Price
  16. Ustinov
  17. Dimitrenko
  18. Arreola
  19. Stiverne
  20. Glazkov
  21. Abdusalamov
  22. Chisora
  23. Jennings
  24. Johnson
  25. Wallisch

Please post your own list, and feel free to comment on mine.
Mine is by no means perfect.
Don't just say i'm wrong and call me a retard, explain why if you disagree.

I found Chisora really hard to rate as his ability is rated more on how well he did in fights he lost rather than his wins.

Also if anyone is missing that may be an oversight rather than because i dont think he deserves to be there.
Haye is too high on the list, he's incredibly over-ratted at HW (not at CW, where he was unbeatable)

Boystov is too high on this list, he belongs below #10

Johnson should be higher on the list, as should Helenius

other than that, your list is alright
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:12 AM   #5
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chisora 8 places behind helenius...the guy we all know he whooped?
G$ora-Haters gonna hate.
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:14 AM   #6
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C. Wlad

1. Vitali
2. Povetkin
3. Helenius
4. Chisora
5. Adamek
6. Pulev
7. Thompson
8. Arreola
9. Ustinov
10. Boytsov
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:15 AM   #7
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The only ones I care to watch:

Wlad
Vitali
Arreola
Mitchell
Chisora
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:17 AM   #8
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chisora 8 places behind helenius...the guy we all know he whooped?
As I said, chisora was hard to rate, he by no means "whooped" helenius although probably should have been given the decision.
But I probably should have put him higher.
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:21 AM   #9
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G$ora-Haters gonna hate.
YEssir! Although I do feel like Helenius/CHizzy was closer than some people think. . Chizzy was hitting mostly elbows, and gloves, but CHizzy deserved the win for being more active. . .

Oh yeah, one more thing. . . Foreman (and CHisora!) Hoooooooooooooooooooook!
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:22 AM   #10
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1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Adamek
6. Pulev
7. Fury
8. Arreola
9. Helenius
10. Chisora
11. Mitchell
12. Boytsov
13. Thompson
14. Pianeta
15. Chagaev
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:34 AM   #11
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With the HW division being in such disgraceful state and contenders not actually fighting each other and most of them instead fighting comedy opposition, it's difficult to rank them.

Wlad is by some distance the best HW on the planet.

Vitali is a great deal behind, followed by David Haye, followed by Povetkin

Chisora is decently high up on the list owing to

1. His beating of Helennius

2. His showing against Vitali

He had a poor showing against Fury but it's well known (to anyone who watched the fight) that it was due to conditioning, and that in his best condition he is a tough fight for anybody.

I personally rank on skills then resume, not the other way round.
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:38 AM   #12
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I have conceded that chisora should be higher so I have moved him
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:39 AM   #13
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Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
Dereck Chisora
Alexander Povetkin
Tomasz Adamek
Eddie Chambers
Chris Arreola
Tyson Fury
Robert Helenius
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:45 AM   #14
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With the HW division being in such disgraceful state and contenders not actually fighting each other and most of them instead fighting comedy opposition, it's difficult to rank them.

Wlad is by some distance the best HW on the planet.

Vitali is a great deal behind, followed by David Haye, followed by Povetkin

Chisora is decently high up on the list owing to

1. His beating of Helennius

2. His showing against Vitali

He had a poor showing against Fury but it's well known (to anyone who watched the fight) that it was due to conditioning, and that in his best condition he is a tough fight for anybody.

I personally rank on skills then resume, not the other way round.

The current hw scene is strong, there is more depth in the division than before so there are more options for the contenders to face. In the past the top contenders would face each other more because there were not as many serious options.

Look at the 91 top ten from ring;
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Riddick Bowe
Razor Ruddock
Ray Mercer
George Foreman
Tim Witherspoon
Tony Tucker
Lennox Lewis
Michael Moorer

By the end of 1991 how many fights do you think there had been between those rated in this top ten?

Make a list of the 25 from any year in the 70s and we'll discuss how it compares to now.
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:56 AM   #15
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Top 10

1Wladimir Klitscko
2Vitali Klitscko
3Alexander povetkin
5Chris arreola
6Derek chisora
7Tyson fury
8Robert Helenius
9David Haye
10Seth mitchell
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