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Old 05-08-2012, 01:42 PM   #31
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But he never won the fight, regardless of what you think.
That's such a moronic attitude. Three corrupt judges only determine who wins a fight on paper.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:55 PM   #32
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I don't think so mate, I think Dereck is going to give Haye a very difficult fight; I think Chisora's stamina is going to play a big part here, we know that when he is in condition he can fight at quite a rate for twelve rounds and he can definitely take a shot.

I'm not sure Haye will be able to keep pace with him over the distance

As I said in the other thread - Chisoras best chance to take it late.

But to lose to Tyson Fury - is not a good sign in your prospects of beating Haye.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:56 PM   #33
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That's such a moronic attitude. Three corrupt judges only determine who wins a fight on paper.

Well the way I always say it............

Fighter A won the fight.

but

Fighter B won the decsion.

Sometimes two different things entirely concerning the same fight.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:00 PM   #34
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Haye's wins at heavyweight have ALL been against old, decrepit, washed-up fighters.
People talk about Ruiz as if he was still a relevant fighter !


28 year-old Chisora is at least a "live" young contender. He's nothing special at all, but IF Haye blasts him out it will be Haye's best win at HW by far.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:01 PM   #35
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I can't see Chisora beating Haye. I see Chisora giving him some degree of trouble, in the sense Mormeck did, the Italian did, so there is precedent for this type of fighter troubling him.

But he's going to have to walk through a lot of stuff that I'm not sure he'll be capable of. If he is, he'll have a chance. But I don't see it. ***ton stunned him with a right hand, just because he went 12 with an ancient Klitschko who doesn't retain much one punch power doesn't say much for him not being in bother here.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:02 PM   #36
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Haye's wins at heavyweight have ALL been against old, decrepit, washed-up fighters.
People talk about Ruiz as if he was still a relevant fighter !


28 year-old Chisora is at least a "live" young contender. He's nothing special at all, but IF Haye blasts him out it will be Haye's best win at HW by far.
G$ora has Granite in his mandible, nobody active can blast him out.

However, your overall concept is correct.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:04 PM   #37
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Haye's wins at heavyweight have ALL been against old, decrepit, washed-up fighters.
People talk about Ruiz as if he was still a relevant fighter !


28 year-old Chisora is at least a "live" young contender. He's nothing special at all, but IF Haye blasts him out it will be Haye's best win at HW by far.
Based on what they have shown in their careers - I think Valuev - while hardly the most graceful and skilled heavyweight ever - is a much proven better fighter than Dereck Chrisora.

Haye has won at a level higher than what it would mean to beat Chrisora.

I'm not defending Haye by any means - just being realistic.
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G$ora has Granite in his mandible, nobody active can blast him out.

However, your overall concept is correct.
No, he doesn't. Sam ***ton visibly stunned him, Helenius troubled him. Both with the right. He can be taken out and theres a good chance he will.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #39
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Watch the Tyson Fury fight and tell me Haye won't run through him?

Haye is so much faster, hits harder, and is better at everything than Chisora.

Del Boy is in for a long night, you watch

This'll be vintage CW Haye...
The Fury fight?

Chisora didn't even train for that fight.
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In a way this fight is another "money making event" - from Haye - something like the Audely Harrison fight was - its what Hayes career has become these days than taking the hard road of being a serious fighter building a career / legacy.

Of course - Chirsora - is a more solid opponnet - than Audely Harrison

But still - - Chrirsora - hardly warrants World Class regard - cos he lasted the distance against Vitali.

this fight is just happening cos it sells.
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Based on what they have shown in their careers - I think Valuev - while hardly the most graceful and skilled heavyweight ever - is a much proven better fighter than Dereck Chrisora.

Haye has won at a level higher than what it would mean to beat Chrisora.

I'm not defending Haye by any means - just being realistic.
Valuev was coming off a year's layoff, and a horrible fight with a 46 year old Holyfield. Valuev was 36, looking like 66 !

Chisora looked better in his last two fights than Valuev looked against Holyfield. Arguably better than Valuev EVER looked.
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In a way this fight is another "money making event" - from Haye - something like the Audely Harrison fight was - its what Hayes career has become these days than taking the hard road of being a serious fighter building a career / legacy.

Of course - Chirsora - is a more solid opponnet - than Audely Harrison

But still - - Chrirsora - hardly warrants World Class regard - cos he lasted the distance against Vitali.

this fight is just happening cos it sells.
You're over-rating Haye's HW achievements compared to Chisora's.

Valuev was a paper champion. Barrett and Harrison were tomato cans, both almost 40 years old. Ruiz was washed-up.

Chisora should have a "W" on his record against Helenius, who was world rated prospect and contender.
A young 'live' heavyweight, something Haye has NEVER beaten.

People still buy into the Haye myth, and I don't see why.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:20 PM   #43
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Valuev was coming off a year's layoff, and a horrible fight with a 46 year old Holyfield. Valuev was 36, looking like 66 !

Chisora looked better in his last two fights than Valuev looked against Holyfield. Arguably better than Valuev EVER looked.
The G$ora who beat Helenius would beat Shot Holyfield, whereas Valuev couldn't even beat Beyond Shot Holy.
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Valuev was coming off a year's layoff, and a horrible fight with a 46 year old Holyfield. Valuev was 36, looking like 66 !

Chisora looked better in his last two fights than Valuev looked against Holyfield. Arguably better than Valuev EVER looked.

Holyfield - thats the key word.

Regardless of him being 46 years old - and faded = one of the best heavyweights - maybe like - ever - all time - certainly at Crusier.

Holyfield - seen as shot - in World Class terms - its all relative to what you judge them against.

Throw Holyfield in with a British level fighter - and even now - he would make mince meat of them.

Valuev - was a greater win for Haye than Chrisroa would be.
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Holyfield - thats the key word.

Regardless of him being 46 years old - and faded = one of the best heavyweights - maybe like - ever - all time - certainly at Crusier.

Holyfield - seen as shot - in World Class terms - its all relative to what you judge them against.

Throw Holyfield in with a British level fighter - and even now - he would make mince meat of them.

Valuev - was a greater win for Haye than Chrisroa would be.
Holyfield merely "seen as shot"... no he was a Beyond Shot Ancient Zombie.
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