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Old 05-08-2012, 03:11 PM   #61
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Haye is getting knocked out in this one.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:11 PM   #62
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David Haye only beats plant pots with ease. Chisora is actually a half decent heavyweight, something that David Haye isn't used to fighting.
Yes, because Chisora has beaten the who's who of the division.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:14 PM   #63
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He still came nowhere near beating Vitali, which hardly qualifies him for beating Haye. Kevin Johnson didn't get stopped by Vitali, does he get extra credit for that?

Chisora landed **** all.
Chisora clearly landed a few good punches. I don't know how you can say he didn't land anything.

My point was he did better than anyone else has and that point still stands.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:15 PM   #64
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Favour Haye but I think Chisora has a legit shot here. I reckon it will be competitive.
This is what I'm thinking here. Will probably bet on Haye between rounds 4 and 9 and Chisora decision depending on what odds I can get.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:17 PM   #65
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He still came nowhere near beating Vitali, which hardly qualifies him for beating Haye. Kevin Johnson didn't get stopped by Vitali, does he get extra credit for that?

Chisora landed **** all.
Kevin "Safety Pin" Johnson won no rounds, whereas G$ora took four through hard working pressure.

Plus, as for "landing **** all"... G$ora rocked Vitali in the 12th round, who then clung on for dear life.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:18 PM   #66
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When else has Vitali been pushed that hard since Lewis?
Sanders?
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:19 PM   #67
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Kevon Johnson was hugley criticized for not even trying to beat Vitali Klitschko whereas Chisora was praised for at least giving his all for 12 rounds. Sure he lost, but no one expected him to win.
Chisora made Vitali work harder than anyone had post Lewis.Its really not hard to see that unless you're just letting your dislike for the man cloud your judgement.
No, just a lot of people overstate what he actually achieved which was the sum total of... **** ALL.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:24 PM   #68
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Yes, because Chisora has beaten the who's who of the division.
I never said he'd beaten the who's who of the division. I said he was half decent?

David Haye likes fighting poor/over the hill, heavyweights....right or wrong?
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:25 PM   #69
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I think Chisora won as many rounds against Vitali as Haye did against Wlad.

Del Boy took a lot more punishment. But tried harder.

Haye was in with the better brother.

Which performance was better?
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:32 PM   #70
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I think Chisora won as many rounds against Vitali as Haye did against Wlad.

Del Boy took a lot more punishment. But tried harder.

Haye was in with the better brother.

Which performance was better?

I was impressed with Dereck's performance, I was not impressed with David's.

I think Chisora delivered (almost) on what he promised, I don't think Haye did at all.......
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:34 PM   #71
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How many rounds did you give him?
Two, if I recall correctly.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:42 PM   #72
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I dont disagree with that at all (I only gave him three) but IMO he was still competitive despite Vitali winning quite comfortably. I scored Cotto/Floyd 117-111 for Floyd for instance yet that fight was very competitive.
I mean how many rounds did guys like Adamek, Arreola, Briggs win against the same man? Combined I gave them 1 round
BUT doing better does not mean doing well. Just because he made more of an effort doesn't mean he gets extra credit when he's still losing comprehensively.

And it tells us nothing about how he'll fare against Haye.

Comparing that fight with Cotto's effort is a little thin.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:45 PM   #73
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Good shout actually.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:58 PM   #74
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I can't pick this one. Haye's perfomance against Wlad may very well be deceptive, a lot of people will be judging him on that rather than how he was viewed prior to that fight. I don't think fighting Wlad should suggest much about how it is to fight Chisora, especially when there was so little action.

Chisora's recent efforts have not been that dissimilar from Fragomeni in style. Recall how Haye actually struggled with a durable fighter that will come forward to get on the inside with little worry about what is coming back at him. The difference is that Fragomeni was 5'9" and <200lbs and Chisora is 6'1" and ~240lbs, and almost certainly with better punch resistance. I don't expect Chisora to take a backward step unless he is hurt. Haye will be back pedalling and trying to land big counters all night, and with Haye's debatable stamina, that's going to be a pretty decent challenge.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:06 PM   #75
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I'm really not sure why peoples perceptions have changed to the degree its widely considered Chisora has a great chance. Because he beat an oak tree like Helenius and nicked a few rounds off an ancient and visibly fading Klitschko? What do you think would happen if Haye fought somebody as bad as Helenius? Its widely known he got pounded by Haye in sparring, he'd get knocked out in a real fight. It's not at all hard to envisage Haye taking rounds off a slow, clumsy Vitali at this point.

Haye will win this fight.
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