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Old 05-08-2012, 11:05 AM   #1
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Default As much as I dislike Floyd Mayweather...

I do think the sport benefits from his presence and assuming he lost, boxing as a whole would suffer.

A few years ago, I was pretty much the opposite. Mayweather was replaceable and whenever you did hear about him, he was bringing boxing down with PED allegations or whatever else. I won't ever be a fan of his but as long as he does the right thing for the sport, then I'm glad he's around. The attention he brought to boxing with the Cotto fight was exactly what we need. Given the state of the heavyweight division, we need a fighter who can represent boxing from the lighter weights and Floyd is that man.

I prefer Pacquiao, I think Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather in 2009 and I won't ever be a Mayweather fan...but I am glad he's in the sport and representing it to his fullest.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:06 AM   #2
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I do think the sport benefits from his presence and assuming he lost, boxing as a whole would suffer.

A few years ago, I was pretty much the opposite. Mayweather was replaceable and whenever you did hear about him, he was bringing boxing down with PED allegations or whatever else. I won't ever be a fan of his but as long as he does the right thing for the sport, then I'm glad he's around. The attention he brought to boxing with the Cotto fight was exactly what we need. Given the state of the heavyweight division, we need a fighter who can represent boxing from the lighter weights and Floyd is that man.

I prefer Pacquiao, I think Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather in 2009 and I won't ever be a Mayweather fan...but I am glad he's in the sport and representing it to his fullest.
Is it a coincidence he's looked like shit since 2009 (when Mayweather Sr and Jr made the original accusation) ?
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:08 AM   #3
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Is it a coincidence he's looked like shit since 2009 (when Mayweather Sr and Jr made the original accusation) ?
WTF are you talking about? Which fights did he look "shit" in?
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WTF are you talking about? Which fights did he look "shit" in?
OK...sorry let me re-phrase that...is it a coincidence he's looked WORSE since 2009? If you are in denial about that its laughable

And for the record, in both of his 2011 fights he looked like SHIT
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:11 AM   #5
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WTF are you talking about? Which fights did he look "shit" in?
I hope you realise i'm talking about Pacquiao, not Mayweather
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:11 AM   #6
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He did look bad against JMM (a fight he clearly lost and was hurt in on more than one occasion) and Mosley (he won but Mosley's lateral movement made that Pac very ineffective for long stretches).
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:12 AM   #7
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Is it a coincidence he's looked like shit since 2009 (when Mayweather Sr and Jr made the original accusation) ?
Nah, I think he's just coming to the end of his career.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:12 AM   #8
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OK...sorry let me re-phrase that...is it a coincidence he's looked WORSE since 2009? If you are in denial about that its laughable

And for the record, in both of his 2011 fights he looked like SHIT
17 years of ring-age, with a lot of wars and a come-forward style that doesn't last long. i'm surprised that he lasted fighting at this level for so long.
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I hope you realise i'm talking about Pacquiao, not Mayweather
Yes of course, but what fight did he look "shit" in? Your only case is the Marquez fight, Mosley was running like a ****ing chicken doing everything he could to NOT fight. How can Pacquiao be blamed for not looking his best in that fight? Even further, how does that indicate that he is now off the roids, ad your thinly veiled question indicates?
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:14 AM   #10
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OK...sorry let me re-phrase that...is it a coincidence he's looked WORSE since 2009? If you are in denial about that its laughable

And for the record, in both of his 2011 fights he looked like SHIT
And is Margarito included in the fights in which he looked like "shit"?
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:17 AM   #11
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Love him or hate him PBF is good for the sport. He brings a lot of attention to it.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:19 AM   #12
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Yes of course, but what fight did he look "shit" in? Your only case is the Marquez fight, Mosley was running like a ****ing chicken doing everything he could to NOT fight. How can Pacquiao be blamed for not looking his best in that fight? Even further, how does that indicate that he is now off the roids, ad your thinly veiled question indicates?
emmanuel had constant leg problems in both of those 2011 fights as they're on their way to becoming shot. legs are the first thing to go when a fight is declining on his way to being shot
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:21 AM   #13
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Biggest star in boxing is good for the sport. Yes, we know that.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:21 AM   #14
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And is Margarito included in the fights in which he looked like "shit"?
You mean weight drained Margarito who was just a walking punchbag for the majority of the fight? Pacquiao looked ok in that fight but nothing special!

I did say i'll re-phrase to looked like shit in 2011, the Margarito fight was in 2010
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:31 AM   #15
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You mean weight drained Margarito who was just a walking punchbag for the majority of the fight? Pacquiao looked ok in that fight but nothing special!

I did say i'll re-phrase to looked like shit in 2011, the Margarito fight was in 2010
Ok, so thats a 2 year difference since you're initial comment. Which, of course, was to imply that pacquiao stopped using roids after mayweather pointed it out and therefore looked like shit in his fights.
Margarito IS walking punching bag, and pacquiao did what a great fighter is supposed to do to a walking punching bad: shreadded his ass, and looked great doing it
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