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View Poll Results: Do you support the BBBoC stance or the Haye-Chisora Luxembourg Licence Promotion?
I support the BBBoC stance 31 18.67%
I support the Haye-Chisora promotion with the Luxembourg Board 107 64.46%
I don't care. 28 16.87%
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:51 AM   #46
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Let's let the fight happen. Ali used to fight outside the ring, Tyson and Lewis, etc., who cares.......................
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:20 AM   #47
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Promoters running the sport is not good, this is how you end up with the alphabet titles.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:22 AM   #48
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Some great points there from dftaylor -as far as I'm concerned now fxxx the bboc they obviously have no power they dont wanna work with these fighters / promoters then it's there loss there only crying now as they know there missing out on a payday
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:28 AM   #49
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The BBBoC brought this on themselves, all they had to do was be brave and ban Chisora for 6-9 months then this situation wouldn't be happening. Now they are trying to fight a battle they have no chance of winning
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:29 AM   #50
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rap decision. They only took away Del Boy's license because of media nonsense showing they can't make a decision on their own in the first place because they are easily manipulated. It happened in Germany too so why should they of taken responsibility for what happened outside their jurisdiction?

Unfair on the under card fighters too who are not as well off financially, need the money and shouldn't have to have ultimatums thrown at them. They will obviously go where the money is if they have a wife and kid for example.

If they really wanted to be moral enough, they would reverse bad decisions, get rid of bad refs and not allow fights like they did with Gunn/Macca.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:43 AM   #51
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61-21 to Team Lux.

Overall, less than a quarter support the BBBoC, pretty damning that.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:57 AM   #52
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I support the Luxembourg Board in commissioning this fight, but not because I want to see the downfall of the BBBoC or the prevalence of a promoter-led alternative boxing commission.

I dont believe the BBBoC will ever be proactive to address many of the perennial complaints that us boxing fans have been complaining about for years i.e. poor stoppages, scorecards, lack of transparency or democratic process and high costs inflicted to promoters - particularly the small hall promoter - what does the BBBoC do to help them?

No, the BBBoC has a long history of only making major changes when it has been backed into a corner and been forced to do it i.e. Solomon's London monopoly, provision of live broadcasts of fights in Britain, new major changes to medical safety procedures, manager-promoter conflict of interests - which is still not geared enough in the interests of the boxer.

What they need is a drastic root and branch overview of how they conduct business.
They should call an extraordinary AGM with all of their membership to listen to how they can improve their procedures and processes and take action.

It is in the best interests of British boxing if the BBBoC becomes a more democratic organisation and a better run body in the aftermath of this event. But, if they just try to steamroll ahead and continue the way they do, I think they could be putting their own future in jeopardy. They need the support of their licence payers now, more than ever.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:07 AM   #53
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Was it not the BBBofC who said;

"Dereck Chisora is welcome to apply for a license in another jurisdiction"

and also

They are being completely hypocritical - they put shows on elsewhere. I'd give them a tiny bit of support but now they've come out with that barbaric ridiculous statement they can get ****ed
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:08 AM   #54
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I support the BBBofC's position.
They have ALWAYS been universally recognized as THE boxing authority within these shores.
What would you expect them to do ?
Roll over for Frank ****ing Warran and the 'Luxembourg Boxing Federation' ?

Honestly, if someone came on this forum a week ago talking about Luxembourg licenses and saying that the BBBofC licence means nothing much in the UK and is no better than a Luxembourg one, 99% of you would say that was BOLLOCKS.
If someone said you can be 'unlicensed' by the British board but that doesn't mean anything within these shores, they'd be told to shut the **** up.

Now, just because most of us consider Chisora v Haye a must-see event, or at least a decent match-up, people are losing their common-sense on this.

Obviously the BBBofC have to show balls. If they allow their members to be involved in this they might as well say they don't exist as any sort of boxing authority.
Dereck Chisora has always boxed under a BBBofC license, so has Haye. Now all of a sudden the BBBofC licence is relegated to the same status as a Luxembourg one ??
**** off with that bollocks.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:15 AM   #55
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tc., who cares.......................[/quote]

Rational post from Farmboxer alert!!!

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Old 05-10-2012, 04:19 AM   #56
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The Board caused this whole mess by faffing around about Chisora's punishment. For years they've allowed poor officiating, bad judging, corruption and apathy to reign. They've done nothing to promote the sport, little to regulate it, and more to harm it than any single promoter.

Let's get the "brawl" in some perspective. It was pathetic, but no one got killed. The only people involved chose to get involved, it wasn't like they battered a journalist for asking a tough question. Yes, Chisora deserved punished, but it's the board's fault for trying to be smart about it, handing down a lifetime ban without saying it.

The Board ****ed up. They have been shown up for the bullies they are. Imagine threatening people who want to make a living just because they've been left in the cold.
It wasn't just the brawl with Haye that got Chisora banned.
Chisora is obviously a ****ing nut-job. Mentally unfit to represent the sport.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:36 AM   #57
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Legend X is spot on.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:05 AM   #58
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So, how much money was actually held from Chisora's purse by the WBC after the Vitali fight and who is the beneficiary of this withdrawn sum of money - i.e. does the WBA keep it, does it go back to the promoter of the fight? If so, why should either the promoter or WBC benefit from Chisora's actions? Are they going to invest that money into grass roots boxing or for a good cause?

As dispicable as Chisora was in Munich, the more I think about the subsequent action from the board, the more I think that they could have handled that better. An indefinite ban was nonsense, he had already been significantly fined. And the length of time for the Board to hear an appeal is really a piss take as well.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:49 AM   #59
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On Talksport, Keys was suggested that perhaps some input was given to the Board from another television company that knows the Haye-Chisora fight will be big but it isnt on their channel?

Wazza said the Board's stance is libellous and a restraint of trade. Where have we heard that line before?
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:04 AM   #60
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BBBofC are correct, if ***** thinks he is above the board of control who are clearly there for British Boxing he's a fool, this is going to push boxing further and further away to becoming anywhere near more popular.

Id much rather watch 10 packed quality cards a year than the shit thats on boxnation!
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