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Old 05-10-2012, 08:28 PM   #181
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:33 PM   #182
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[IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j9p8QWhLl_c/Tz86MMdiZmI/AAAAAAAAACg/qfpdayntGDw/s1600/Dereck+Chisora+*****+Slaps+Vitali+Klitschko+at+Weigh+In.gif[/IMG]

Chisora's the kind of guy that wins the event before the fights even started.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:21 PM   #183
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****load of chisora avatars in this thread
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:34 PM   #184
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Actually the Wlad fight did play a part in him being stripped of it. Chagaev was scheduled to fight Valuev in May 2009 - could have been April - but failed a medical due to his hepatitis. The deadline for a fight to be arranged was June 26th, but when Haye pulled out of the Wlad fight Chagaev stepped in rather than try to renegotiate with Valuev's camp and the WBA. Boxing politics most certainly played a big part in Haye winning his paper title.
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Not to mention that Chagaev and Valuev had a date and venue lined up until White Tyson's medical test results showed hepatitis. The WBA demoted him to their #1 challenger position after he signed on to face Wladimir, as prior to that there was still time designated to come to an agreement on a new date and venue.

The entire business was shady. When Chagaev was injured he was declared 'Champion In Recess' and Valuev fought for the 'vacant' WBA World Heavyweight Title - when usually he'd have fought for an 'Interim' title.
Whilst I agree that the 'entire business was shady', Chagaev was to all intents and purposes demoted to the status of 'champion in recess' - whilst he was injured Valuev fought for the 'vacant' WBA world title; not teh 'interim, not the 'regular', but 'vacant' title.

When he was scheduled to face Valuev he was in effect the challenger, despite the spurious 'title' the WBA had decided to hand him in his long absence from the ring.

I really don't know how anybody could try to claim he deserved to keep his title after longer than a year out of the ring.

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I don't know why you're coming out with utter nonsense as if it's fact. He fought Carl Davis Drumond in between Wladimir and Skelton. Between the Drumond fight and the would be Valuev fight that would have only been 3 or 4 months out of the ring.
Here you go you thick ****ing ****.

Chagaev defeated Skelton on the 19th of January 2008.

His next fight was against Carl Davis Drumond on the 7th of February 2009.

That's over a year. Not the '3 or 4 months out of the ring' you postulated.

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Old 05-10-2012, 09:35 PM   #185
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I'm on Chisora's side, no questions about it.
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:04 AM   #186
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:07 AM   #187
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Here you go you thick ****ing ****.

Chagaev defeated Skelton on the 19th of January 2008.

His next fight was against Carl Davis Drumond on the 7th of February 2009.

That's over a year. Not the '3 or 4 months out of the ring' you postulated.

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Nice contrast of linguistic styles there
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:17 AM   #188
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Whilst I agree that the 'entire business was shady', Chagaev was to all intents and purposes demoted to the status of 'champion in recess' - whilst he was injured Valuev fought for the 'vacant' WBA world title; not teh 'interim, not the 'regular', but 'vacant' title.

When he was scheduled to face Valuev he was in effect the challenger, despite the spurious 'title' the WBA had decided to hand him in his long absence from the ring.

I really don't know how anybody could try to claim he deserved to keep his title after longer than a year out of the ring.



Here you go you thick ****ing ****.

Chagaev defeated Skelton on the 19th of January 2008.

His next fight was against Carl Davis Drumond on the 7th of February 2009.

That's over a year. Not the '3 or 4 months out of the ring' you postulated.

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Old 05-11-2012, 05:38 AM   #189
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Nice contrast of linguistic styles there


I know it might seem a complete overreaction, but he's accused me of fabrication in the past regarding this matter. Besides it's Manning he knows what he's doing.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:32 AM   #190
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Nice contrast of linguistic styles there
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:52 AM   #191
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Serious question here, which of these is really worse:

a) Fighting with a defensive strategy, mainly on the back foot and losing a 12 round decision to the most dominant heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis.

or

b) Turning up 3 stone overweight to a British title fight, fighting with no real gameplan, losing a 12 round decision to Tyson Fury and by his own admission afterwards "not really giving a toss about it".



Both of these happened only last July.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:52 AM   #192
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**** it, sign me up the more I think about it, No way can I cheer for a Millwall fan at the home of the gods.

**** Haye!
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:57 AM   #193
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no way can haye beat chisora no bloody way
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:59 AM   #194
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:01 AM   #195
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Serious question here, which of these is really worse:

a) Fighting with a defensive strategy, mainly on the back foot and losing a 12 round decision to the most dominant heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis.

or

b) Turning up 3 stone overweight to a British title fight, fighting with no real gameplan, losing a 12 round decision to Tyson Fury and by his own admission afterwards "not really giving a toss about it".



Both of these happened only last July.
Serious question here. Which of these is more commendable:

a) Bigging yourself up for years while fighting has beens or never was's, then when you get your big shot you circle out of distance for 12 rounds and blame your loss on your little toe

b) Taking on the best you can get, giving your best in every fight, never taking a backwards step, and never complaining even when you were clearly robbed in one of those fights.
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