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Old 05-11-2012, 08:46 PM   #61
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I'm completely down with 60/40 but Pacquiao is not willing to accept that. He wants 50/50

Man, you know what I mean.

Pacquaio does what he does but Mayweather said he was and it isn't happening.

50/50 seems fair to me because we had to wait this long in the first place.

$65 for HD just as any other PPV is...$60 for regualr just as any other PPV is..your speculating with your $100 and it isn't even valid...this guy just won't quit
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:51 PM   #62
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school yard rules?

until your broke ass starts fighting professionally for money, i suggest u shut the **** up, "homie".
My point is, Pacquaio is continually disrespected, but as far as I know hasn't said anything back.

If someone has information otherwise, let me know.

But I do know that Mayweather takes a lot of shots at Pacquaio. If he is going to attack this man's character in his profession, which happens to be pugilism, there should be something of substance liable for retribution.

In this case, a fight. Floyd owes Pacquaio a fight as far as I can see. And I think Floyd owes the public a fight, but honestly, I am in no position to judge.
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:52 PM   #63
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40-60.

Its so obvious.
Winner should take the biggest share, thats fair.

Its also proper `prize fighting`
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:57 PM   #64
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Winner should take the biggest share, thats fair.

Its also proper `prize fighting`
55/45 to the winner or 50/50. i hope someone from each camp get this very fair offer for a fight of this magnitude. if someone proposed this, he really wants the fight instead of some other BS offers.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:02 PM   #65
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They should take their average PPV buys and split accordingly. Floyd offering Pac $40 million with no PPV is like offering him 20-25%. Floyd does not average 75% more PPV buys than Pac.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:05 PM   #66
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$65 for HD just as any other PPV is...$60 for regualr just as any other PPV is..your speculating with your $100 and it isn't even valid...this guy just won't quit
$100.

Make that $200.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:53 PM   #67
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MANNY deserves 45-50 percent of all revenue.Floyd wnts to pay him 25%
How the **** is $40m only 25 percent? Its RISKLESS guaranteed money whereas Floyd has to invest in the fight. Obviously the investor should get a bigger return because he is open to risk and opportunity costs...Makes zero sense for PAC to make 50 percent considering he is too broke to finance a portion of the fight.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:56 PM   #68
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55/45 is the max Floyd should demand, but Floyd wont accept that I doubt he would even accept 60/40.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:57 PM   #69
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How the **** is $40m only 25 percent? Its RISKLESS guaranteed money whereas Floyd has to invest in the fight. Obviously the investor should get a bigger return because he is open to risk and opportunity costs...Makes zero sense for PAC to make 50 percent considering he is too broke to finance a portion of the fight.
Then let the promoters do the promoting...unless that's another one of Floyd's roadblock, that he alone assumes control of the promotion. Ya know, it's great Floyd has his business model that he's so proud of, it doesn't mean the other PPV star in the boxing world has to ****ing go along with it.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:03 PM   #70
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Then let the promoters do the promoting...unless that's another one of Floyd's roadblock, that he alone assumes control of the promotion. Ya know, it's great Floyd has his business model that he's so proud of, it doesn't mean the other PPV star in the boxing world has to ****ing go along with it.
Why would the promoters do the "promoting" when Floyd can do it himself and make more money?? That a useless argument and calling it a "roadblock" is ridiculous. Pac has to go along with it because he doesn't have enough money to do the same thing that's why. You know this is the world right? People have more money than others and thus are privy to more opportunity.

Its just Arum wants to co-promote the event and is not happy with simply taking commissions...that is the problem. You better believe that Pacquiao is VERY happy with 40 million guaranteed.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:11 PM   #71
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Why would the promoters do the "promoting" when Floyd can do it himself and make more money?? That a useless argument and calling it a "roadblock" is ridiculous. Pac has to go along with it because he doesn't have enough money to do the same thing that's why. You know this is the world right? People have more money than others and thus are privy to more opportunity.

Its just Arum wants to co-promote the event and is not happy with simply taking commissions...that is the problem. You better believe that Pacquiao is VERY happy with 40 million guaranteed.
He has a promoter he's contractually obligated to who does it for him....and you're missing the point. Floyd can't dictate his business model to Pacquiao for the simple fact Pac's a big enough name not to bend over to a business model that sells him short....and a proposal that would potentially lose him 10's of millions. And back to that contractually obligated promoter....you can't set ultimatums and say you want his promoter out for the simple fact that HE IS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:52 PM   #72
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Pacquiao should be lucky that a fight with him is even being entertained by Floyd Mayweather. Pacquiao is a dog looking for a bone. He's making pennies and peanuts for his fights. Floyd was going to give Manny a 50/50 for their fight that was announced. Floyd signed and it was on. It got announced but Manny refused to sign. Floyd was going to give him the 50/50 even though his fight with Oscar was carried by Oscar and it did nowhere near 2.5 million homes. He pissed the 50/50 away by refusing a drug test. **** him! 40 million! Take it or leave it.
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #73
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Explain how 50/50 or 45-45-10 to winner is fair?

Lets look at the numbers....

Floyd Mayweather makes 53-55 million with Cotto.

Manny makes a career high of 20 million with his ppv.

So with a 45-45-10 to winner...Floyd can't even top his career high payday.

The fight does 100 million dollars for the fighter share's...means they'll split 100 million.

Oscar and Floyd split 79 million...Floyd got 26 million and Oscar made 53 million.

The fight does 3.0 million buys...De La Hoya Mayweather did 2.4 million buys.

Let's assume Floyd says "ok 50/50." Well now Floyd makes 3 million less than he did with Cotto and Pac MORE THAN DOBULES his highest payday.

Let's assume Floyd takes a "45-45-10 to the winner." Well if Floyd wins, he makes 2 million more than he did with Cotto, while Pacquioa more than doubles his high payday of 20 million.

Now let's assume Floyd takes a "60/40 to the winner." Pac would be guaranteed to double his highest payday (including PPV profits) while Floyd would only make 7 million more than he did with Cotto if he won, and would take a 13 million dollar paycut if he lost.

These are not fair deals...one guy gets to guarantee double his split OR MORE while another fighter only gets to make 7 million more than his high payday.

Any pactards care to explain "WHY" this would be a fair deal?
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:14 AM   #74
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$100.

Make that $200.
Yea look at ya...speculating while I show you the numbers....

The PPV price would be $65 for the HD and $60 for the non hd...

Note-Mayweather-De La Hoya was raised $5 for the HD and $5 for the non HD...

So let's assume that they raise this fight $5...so AT THE VERY MOST it would be $70 for the HD and $65 for the non HD.

Bro your just spitting stuff out without thinking..you just talk like these pactards...

The fact that Floyd "talks shit" is not even relevant...that has nothing to do with the purse split.
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:15 AM   #75
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Explain how 50/50 or 45-45-10 to winner is fair?

Lets look at the numbers....

Floyd Mayweather makes 53-55 million with Cotto.

Manny makes a career high of 20 million with his ppv.

So with a 45-45-10 to winner...Floyd can't even top his career high payday.

The fight does 100 million dollars for the fighter share's...means they'll split 100 million.

Oscar and Floyd split 79 million...Floyd got 26 million and Oscar made 53 million.

The fight does 3.0 million buys...De La Hoya Mayweather did 2.4 million buys.

Let's assume Floyd says "ok 50/50." Well now Floyd makes 3 million less than he did with Cotto and Pac MORE THAN DOBULES his highest payday.

Let's assume Floyd takes a "45-45-10 to the winner." Well if Floyd wins, he makes 2 million more than he did with Cotto, while Pacquioa more than doubles his high payday of 20 million.

Now let's assume Floyd takes a "60/40 to the winner." Pac would be guaranteed to double his highest payday (including PPV profits) while Floyd would only make 7 million more than he did with Cotto if he won, and would take a 13 million dollar paycut if he lost.

These are not fair deals...one guy gets to guarantee double his split OR MORE while another fighter only gets to make 7 million more than his high payday.

Any pactards care to explain "WHY" this would be a fair deal?
Ouch...
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