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Old 07-06-2007, 12:19 PM   #16
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Har har har, de har har!
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:19 PM   #18
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I'm not saying he isn't, just that Luigi hailed him as such solely because UpWithEvil said something positive about Primo Carnera, who Luigi loves.

I donīt love the dead Carnera, Iīm not warped and not homo***ual...


I just donīt like it when some little posters here donīt respect former champions, Carnera would surely beat the likes of Ibragimov, Briggs, etc...
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- Lennox Lewis is the third greatest heavyweight of all time.

- Winky Wright is the best boxer in the world p4p at the moment.

- Mugabi-Hagler wasn't the superfight it's made out to be.

- Michael Spinks is overrated.

- Jack Johnson is overrated.

- Primo Carnera was not a bum.

- In fact, the whole 1930s is a grossly underrated era.

- George Foreman would get slaughtered for his opposition if he was white and/or European.

- Wlad is the more accomplished and more able of the Klitschko brothers.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:24 PM   #20
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I believe that in many cases boxers are better after a layoff, since they have a couple years to recuperate from attrition. He may not have been quite as sharp, but I feel that Ali was almost as good as he ever was during his fight with Frazier.

Without the layoff, he probably would have been worn down to an even greater degree than he actually was when he faced Frazier the first time, and would have lost more decisively.

(And the above, incidentally, is an unorthodox opinion as well).
I beg to differ. Ali's style was a defensive style that would allow for great longevity, so activity would actually help him. Ali wasn't in any wars before the layoff (unless if you want to call the Chuvalo fight a war), and he was actually getting better and better in terms of tightening-up his defense, and increasing his punching power. The layoff took something out of him that he would never get back, and he had clearly lost a step by the time he fought Frazier.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:26 PM   #21
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We often come to a consensus here at the Classic forum. Everyone and their grandmother rates Louis and Ali as #1 and #2, for example. But each of us also has opinions that are...shall we say...out of the ordinary. Whether it's Duran's deadly stomach cramps or Frank Bruno's place in history, there are some issues where new opinions are always popping up.

So, let's hear your weird, wild, or just plain different opinions on boxing.
Rating the Heavies, ALI
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:26 PM   #22
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I just donīt like it when some little posters here donīt respect former champions, Carnera would surely beat the likes of Ibragimov, Briggs, etc...
Possibly, but still I think you make Carnera out to be better than he really is.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:27 PM   #23
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Possibly, but still I think you make Carnera out to be better than he really is.
I think the more significant point is that Carnera was better than history had traditionally credited him with being.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:28 PM   #24
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Carnera was a lumbering oaf of a boxer.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:28 PM   #25
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Possibly, but still I think you make Carnera out to be better than he really is.

I don´t say he was great, but for some here it would be better at first to watch some other fights from Primo (not only against Baer and Sharkey at youtube) and than make a evaluation about him. He was a very good fighter, a Top 50 fighter and would beat most of today HW´s...
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:29 PM   #26
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Carnera was a lumbering oaf of a boxer.

Welcome back forum clown! Any other jokes you have for us?
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:31 PM   #27
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Welcome back forum clown! Any other jokes you have for us?
The only joke around here is the reflection of the cracking mirror as you walk past it.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:32 PM   #28
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The only joke around here is the reflection of the cracking mirror as you walk past it.
Yeah, give me some more of your learnt by heart- verdicts...
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Pryor is overrated pertaining to accomplishment
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Mugabi-Hagler wasn't the superfight it's made out to be.
I agree. Well, it wasn't the non-stop two way war that it's often made out to be. The 6th round was great, and Mugabi landed some good shots in the fight, but Hagler more or less whupped Mugabi and used his head as target practice with his jab.

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Wlad is the more accomplished and more able of the Klitschko brothers.
Yeah, I think Wlad will go down with the better accomplishments. He will have more quality wins, if he doesn't already.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:35 PM   #30
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Joe Louis would be beaten by :

Ali
Foreman
Lewis
Tyson
Holmes

with RELATIVE EASE.

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