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Old 07-06-2007, 05:14 PM   #61
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My Strange Thoughts.

-SRR is overrated at MW.
-Mike Tyson by 1995 would have held wins over Lewis, Bowe and Holyfield had he not gone to prison.
-Larry Holmes would have beaten George Foreman in the 70s 80s and 90s.
-Vitaly Klitschko is lucky to have had the fight stopped when it was before Lewis got a chance to pull out a more decisive win which would have damaged his rep.
-The 90s had a deeper HW division than the 70s.
-Antonio Tarver in no way shape or form beat Roy Jones in thier first meeting.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:31 PM   #62
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-Antonio Tarver in no way shape or form beat Roy Jones in thier first meeting.
Nothing strange at all about that one.

The general opinion is that RJJ won a close fight.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:44 PM   #63
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As many times as I watch it, I never see Jeff Fenech being robbed against Azumah Nelson in the first fight. I've watched it many times, and Fenech's shots are weak, and many of them miss or are blocked. I could even see Nelson getting a decision win.

As many times as I watch it, I never see Thomas Hearns being robbed in the rematch against Leonard. Leonard was knocked down twice, but he also alomost stopped Hearns on at least two occasions. The draw seemed fair.

As many times as I watch it, I never see Maurice Blocker beating Marlon Starling. Starling seemed to have the edge in that one.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:51 PM   #64
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Buster Douglas was potentially a top 10 heavyweight of all time.
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oh that was good, thank you.
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Old 07-06-2007, 06:04 PM   #65
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If he had performed as good or as near as good as he did against Tyson throughout his career you wouldn't be laughing.
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Old 07-06-2007, 06:06 PM   #66
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oh that was good, thank you.
Oh, you were only two years old when he fought Tyson. Excuse me, you probably haven't seen the fight.
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Old 07-06-2007, 06:15 PM   #67
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So, let's hear your weird, wild, or just plain different opinions on boxing.

I'm convinced I would have been light heavyweight champ of the world if I hadn't got into booze and girls. Not many agree.

Marciano isn't a top 12 HW and may not be top 15.

Morales was better than Barrera.

Johnson could step out of a time machine on Saturday, substitue for Brewster and win the title.

Burley may be the best fighter that ever boxed.
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Old 07-06-2007, 06:38 PM   #68
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- Vitali Klitschko won the fight, but Lennox Lewis won the event.
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Old 07-06-2007, 06:41 PM   #69
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Buster Douglas was potentially a top 10 heavyweight of all time.
After his dismantling display against Tyson inside the Tokyo dome, he could well have been, had he stayed away from the cheeseburgers. Its up for debate if he was physically conditioned against Holyfield that a win was on the cards. He certainly would have taken Holyfield into the late rounds, thats for sure. Then Bowe and Lewis would have been next in-line. Bowe had the boxing ability to match Douglas, although not the same footspeed Douglas showed against Tyson. He wasn't as good inside either.

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Old 07-06-2007, 07:41 PM   #70
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I think if Jones and Hopkins met on their best night, Jones would have won on a shut out.
This is very definitely your standout choice per thread topic!

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Old 07-06-2007, 07:41 PM   #71
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When Douglas was in shape, he would have given Bowe all he wanted. Maybe more. Douglas could have out jabbed Bowe, and was cabable of giving him the same quick combinations Golata bothered him with. Douglas always had a tendacy to fade down the stretch. Bowe always showed some heart when hurt, and more heart than I thought he posessed in his 2nd fight with Golata.

Douglas could outpoint Bowe if he didn't fade too much, and get ko'd near the end. I have a feeling that is what would happen. Bowe by ko while down on points.

This is way off target I guess. This is not a Douglas vs. Bowe thread. I already stated by strangest opinions earlier.
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:49 PM   #72
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This is very definitely your standout choice per thread topic!



You're just upset because I haven't asked for that Scott Le Doux action you've got.
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:57 PM   #73
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[quote=cross_trainer]A few of mine:

* Boxing skill is not as important as many think, if you have a combination of natural talent and a lot of practice. Even guys like Hamed and Mayorga have managed to reach the top contender and champion positions of the sport with very unconventional or nonexistent boxing skill.

But did they stay there?

* The 1970's were not a "golden age" for the heavyweight division, and Foreman is not an ATG on the same order as Ali, Louis, Dempsey, etc.

I think that the 70's talent was no better than the talent today, the era was better and is remembered fondly because everybody fought everybody. Shavers looked great because he demolished Norton and knocked down Holmes who beat Norton, who beat Ali who beat Shavers who beat Lyle who gave Foreman 5 hard rounds etc. That's what was great about that era. But honestly, if a washed up, mid thirties, no legs, no punch Ali could rule that division, how great could it have been? (Remember boys this is the strangest opinions thread).
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Old 07-06-2007, 08:13 PM   #74
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George Foreman stayed out of boxing for ten years, exclusively, to avoid having to face Larry Holmes.

Lennox Lewis might be universally considered a top ten HW, if only he wasn't British.

Roberto Duran would still be the World LW Champion, if he wasn't a glutton, and hadn't been in a career ending car wreck.

Holmes conducted himself with class and dignity after his first match with Mike Spinks.

37 year old Jack Johnson would have decisioned Jess Willard over 45 rounds in the Havana heat, if only he'd been in the kind of shape he was in for Jim Flynn and Jim Jeffries (ripped at 195 pounds), and eventually would have lost his title to Dempsey.

The Jess Willard of Havana may have outlasted the Jack Dempsey of Toledo in a 45 round match.

Wille Pep might have been able to decision SRR at 140 pounds, during WW II.
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Old 07-06-2007, 08:20 PM   #75
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You're just upset because I haven't asked for that Scott Le Doux action you've got.
Ohhhhhhhhh i just KNOW you have it




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