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Old 05-16-2012, 11:15 AM   #1
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Default Mayweather vs Pacquiao - PPV comparison question

First of all am a neutral in this debate (before Anyone decide's to call me a pactard/flomo).

Isnt the comparison Of Pac vs Floyd a bit unfair on Pacquiao.
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  • Floyd = American unlike Pacquiao, PPV vs PPV - is the sales from USA
  • Floyd works with Golden Boy, Who put on Great Undercards - In his last 2 fights he has had Morales, Canelo and Mosley, who on their own sell a lot of PPV's
  • Pacquiao is with that peice of shit Arum, He outright refuses to put a good undercard on - He was once asked why not put Donaire on the undercard - Arum: 'That's the Last thing I want'
  • Floyd Fights far more less, so people have the feeling that the fight might once a event fight, so they spend their money - E.g. if the PPV was $60 - A person may set themselve a budget of $60 dollars to spend on a certain fighter, so they often buy 1 out of 2/3, with floyd they can buy every single one
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:21 AM   #2
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all valid points and what's amazing is that pac's numbers are close to what floyd is making. actually, if you compare all their PPV against common opponents when they are on A-side, the average are almost the same.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:25 AM   #3
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Flomos act like Floyd is the PPV king but it's no secret that Floyd need big Mexican name on his undercards to fight on a Mexican Holiday to boost his sale. If PAC was to fight on Cinco De Mayo with Canelo on his undercard I bet he would push pass 1.5 PPV.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:35 AM   #4
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I see no reason why it shouldn't be 45/45 - 10 to the winner, which I think would be Floyd - so it would end up in my opinion 55/45 in favour of floyd - hence giving him his desired majority share
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:47 AM   #5
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I see no reason why it shouldn't be 45/45 - 10 to the winner, which I think would be Floyd - so it would end up in my opinion 55/45 in favour of floyd - hence giving him his desired majority share
See cloud-campillo, Williams-Lara, and manny-Marquez to see why that won't happen
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:48 AM   #6
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all valid points and what's amazing is that pac's numbers are close to what floyd is making. actually, if you compare all their PPV against common opponents when they are on A-side, the average are almost the same.
No what is amazing is floyd is a defensive fighter and classed as boring yet he is the most watched athlete in boxing
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:48 AM   #7
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I think floyd know if he took the 45/45 with 10 to the winner deal he would win however he's still having to agree to a split before the fight which must hurt his ego. It's nothin to do with being scared of losing. Hate it or love it floyd is the p4p king he deserves the lions share, it's nothing to do with winning or losing, I'm sure mentally floyd thinks he could beat a klistchko, u gotta think ur invincible to get to his level
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:55 AM   #8
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I would say it doesn't matter,Pac is the "darling" of the boxing world. More people like Pac than Floyd,Floyd has a lot more people that hate him.. The thing is they pay to see him lose just as his fans pay to see him win.. You guys are just silly as hell getting mad because one man does more ppv buys,keep making excuses..
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:11 PM   #9
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See cloud-campillo, Williams-Lara, and manny-Marquez to see why that won't happen
Floyd vs Manny is bigger than those - they are 50/50 as in names

Cloud - Campillo - 75/25
Williams - Lara - 70-30
Pacquiao - JMM - 65-35
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:57 PM   #10
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William Lara and Cloud Campillo and pac jmm 3 and whitaker chavez are perfect examples of why it should not be 45-45-10 to the winner...60/40 for Floyd. He making $50,000,000 with Cotto. Manny has a high of $25,000,000.

At 45-45-10 to the winner, Floyd will make $5,000,000 less his high payday if he loses and only $5,000,000 his high payday if he wins. Manny will be guarantee'd to make $20,000,000 his high payay if he loses, and $30,000,000 his high payday if he wins.

This isn't even tying into the fact that Floyd does more PPV buys than Manny in common opponents, and he does alot more revenue in common opponents.

Pac takes his $40,000,000 and Floyd gets a 0 guarantee but all PPV profits, which would come to approx. $60,000,000-$65,000,000. So Pac would make $15,000,000 more his highest payday, and Floyd would make $15,000,000 more his highest payday.

Thats if they split a total of $100,000,000-$105,000,000. Oscar and Floyd ended up splitting a total of $79,000,000, though only $46,000,000 of that was from the revenue. Oscar had a guarantee of $23,300,000, while Floyd was guarantee'd $10,000,000. The revenue came out to $136,000,000 approx and the fighters shared approx. 1/3 of that revenue. This fight will probably do more like $185,000,000 (approx), and Floyd would end up with around $60,000,000-$65,000,000.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:10 PM   #11
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Actually Top Rank's undercards has been better. They got more young face first brawlers.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #12
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I'm a Neutral too, and I think Floyd Sucks Ass and Manny is the King.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:14 PM   #13
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I'm a Neutral too, and I think Floyd Sucks Ass and Manny is the King.
Very Neutral comment
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:17 PM   #14
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The Floyd fights less is a very valid point. It creates more of an urge to see him.

When he retired and came back to fight marquez. it was a mismatch, we knew that. but we all bought it cos we missed him.

Same if manny retired for 18 months. We'd be excited when he came back.

Oh sorry forgot to mention. I'm a neutral too by the way.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:18 PM   #15
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The Floyd fights less is a very valid point. It creates more of an urge to see him.

When he retired and came back to fight marquez. it was a mismatch, we knew that. but we all bought it cos we missed him.

Same if manny retired for 18 months. We'd be excited when he came back.

Oh sorry forgot to mention. I'm a neutral too by the way.
All subjective.
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