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Old 05-20-2012, 03:45 PM   #16
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There's one example of him being shaken to the core by Stiverne. Then again he beat Magomed Abdusalamov in the ams...it's all about how you get to him I guess.

I think Helenius sparked him aswell, although that maybe incorrect.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:47 PM   #17
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I'm interested also. If the amateur stoppages were of the ****ish variety, as you point out, then that's not a bad sign for Price. But I'm interested in knowing if there's any history of him being hurt, dropped, and stopped for good cause.

Holmes is an exception to the rule, I think. With Larry, the problem early wasn't really his chin: it was more a case of him being skinny and gangly, especially around the legs. When Holmes got dropped, he wasn't so much hurt as he was physically knocked over. Later, Holmes filled out in the legs and lower body, and was much sturdier.


As for the Tyson loss, that doesn't prove that Holmes's durability decreased. The real problem by then (198 is that Holmes no longer had the perfect reflexes and speed necessary to avoid big bombs. For the first time since his amateur days, he was getting caught. Against a prime Tyson, that's a death sentence.
In green: He had skinny legs as a champion, really. But, yeah, he was definitely hurt as an amateur pretty seriously. Ask Wells.

In blue: What?! The first time getting caught since his amateur days? No! No, not at all! **** no! That's not even slightly true in any way. But, I never said anything about decreased punch resistance anyway, so I'm not sure why you brought it up.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:56 PM   #18
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In green: He had skinny legs as a champion, really. But, yeah, he was definitely hurt as an amateur pretty seriously. Ask Wells.

In blue: What?! The first time getting caught since his amateur days? No! No, not at all! **** no! That's not even slightly true in any way. But, I never said anything about decreased punch resistance anyway, so I'm not sure why you brought it up.
I may know Holmes's career better than you do. I grew up in that era, and watched his fights on live TV. I followed Holmes for years.

I don't know what happened in the Wells fight. That was never discussed in the '70s and '80s. Until a film surfaces, I have my doubts that Holmes was hurt "pretty seriously," as you allege based on hearsay.

And yes, in the Tyson fight Holmes was getting caught consistently with power punches for the first time in his pro career, really. Norton, Weaver, and Shavers hit Holmes previously, but none of them could land more than a single big bomb at a time: Holmes was too mobile and elusive for them. But Larry's elusiveness was gone by 1988, which is why Tyson connected repeatedly.

"Decreased punch resistance" is what's implied by your first post.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:00 PM   #19
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There's one example of him being shaken to the core by Stiverne. Then again he beat Magomed Abdusalamov in the ams...it's all about how you get to him I guess.

I think Helenius sparked him aswell, although that maybe incorrect.
Stiverne is a devastating puncher if allowed to connect with his full power. It could be that Price's real problem was leaky defense. But this is interesting noentheless.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:10 PM   #21
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Who cares. **** off and stop hating on price man. Find something to do better with your time. Its sad to see a boxing fan( apparently) try to find something to disrepect price and the sport.

Your no fan man.

Honestly. Who the **** cares man. Really. Get a life and move on.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:12 PM   #22
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Who cares. **** off and stop hating on price man. Find something to do better with your time. Its sad to see a boxing fan( apparently) try to find something to disrepect price and the sport.

Your no fan man.

Honestly. Who the **** cares man. Really. Get a life and move on.
Read my posts in the thread. Either you have ignored the posts, or you have a reading comp problem. Not sure which.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:14 PM   #23
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Baldwin I already blasted him for it, in which case he responded and made me look like a ****, so Id duck out
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Have fun taking about a fighter chin in the AM. What ever makes you feel cool on a sunday afternoon.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:15 PM   #25
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Who cares. **** off and stop hating on price man. Find something to do better with your time. Its sad to see a boxing fan( apparently) try to find something to disrepect price and the sport.

Your no fan man.

Honestly. Who the **** cares man. Really. Get a life and move on.
Calm down for **** sake, in no way shape or form is there any signs of hatred in the mans posts.He makes good points and obviously respects the man for his power etc etc
Boxing fans act like PMSing girls at times.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:18 PM   #26
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I think Helenius sparked him aswell, although that maybe incorrect.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:23 PM   #27
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He may have a weak chin,simple as. The amateur footage proves it.
Plus he's fought no-one of distinction yet so why make him out as the next Ali?
Lets wait n see.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:28 PM   #28
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This thread is hilarious. Look at all the Brits crying about it after they've made 20+ threads on how vitali was ko'd by a leg kick in amateur kickboxing 25 years ago.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:29 PM   #29
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He may have a weak chin,simple as. The amateur footage proves it.
Plus he's fought no-one of distinction yet so why make him out as the next Ali?
Lets wait n see.
What's your take on the footage? Again, getting rocked by Stiverne doesn't necessarily mean a guy can't take it. But we have to look closely.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:34 PM   #30
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Baldwin I already blasted him for it, in which case he responded and made me look like a ****, so Id duck out
I remember when Gerry ****ey was coming up the ranks in the very early '80s. He had devastating offensive capabilities and a killer left hook. A big, tall, hulking guy with reach, power, and an educated left. Everyone was gung ho about ****ey, expecting that he was a future champ.

But nobody seemed concerned about whether ****ey could absorb a heavy blow to the chin. None of ****ey's opponents could reach him, so nobody cared.

Ultimately, it came out that ****ey's chin was quite weak. Against Holmes and Spinks, ****ey's legs turned to jelly every time to absorbed a right.
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