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Old 05-21-2012, 03:40 AM   #16
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Default Re: So Far the only top fighters who are 100% clean are:Floyd,Khan,Ortiz,JMM,Cotto,Ca

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JMM took the test vs Floyd, and he was clean.
Dont think so,got a source??

from my knowledge Floyd started extra testing with his Mosley fight
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:44 AM   #17
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Dont think so,got a source??

from my knowledge Floyd started extra testing with his Mosley fight
My bad if thats the case

I thought he started with JMM
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:47 AM   #18
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Default Re: So Far the only top fighters who are 100% clean are:Floyd,Khan,Ortiz,Cotto,Canelo

The thread title basically states that everyone in boxing who is performing well is using PED's on way or another.

Let's just shut the sport down based on the OP's logic.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:50 AM   #19
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you stupid ****s will be making these gay ass threads forever because its not a rule to "take da test". nothing to hide why wouldnt you right? common stupid question.

no different when you are arrested and the cops ask you a question, you can choose to answer it "if you havent done anything wrong" or say nothing and get an attorney....

if its an option to do choice a or b , whats the point in crying about shit because you dont agree with their choice?
Feel you man. I hate visiting boxing forums because of these scum bag Mayweather fans constantly hijacking them with their bullshit. I can't wait till Mayweather retires and they go away back to their holes
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:54 AM   #20
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Default Re: So Far the only top fighters who are 100% clean are:Floyd,Khan,Ortiz,Cotto,Canelo

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The thread title basically states that everyone in boxing who is performing well is using PED's on way or another.

Let's just shut the sport down based on the OP's logic.
D.C commission tests did not pick up Peterson's drug use Pre Khan vs Peterson in Dec 2011.

Commission tests dont work clearly.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:55 AM   #21
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Default Re: So Far the only top fighters who are 100% clean are:Floyd,Khan,Ortiz,Cotto,Canelo

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The thread title basically states that everyone in boxing who is performing well is using PED's on way or another.

Let's just shut the sport down based on the OP's logic.
The thread title basically states that those fighters named took the test and were confirmed 100% clean.

Those who haven't taken the test doesn't mean they ARE cheating, but we can't be 100% sure until they take the test.

I see where you're from though, so i'm not too surprised.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:55 AM   #22
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Default Re: So Far the only top fighters who are 100% clean are:Floyd,Khan,Ortiz,Cotto,Canelo

Marquez was Drinking his own Piss to get the extra steroids that passed through his system.

At 38 he went up in weight and was bigger than Pac. Took his best shots which Mosley and Cotto couldn't.

Definety a Ped User

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Old 05-21-2012, 04:00 AM   #23
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The thread title basically states that those fighters named took the test and were confirmed 100% clean.

Those who haven't taken the test doesn't mean they ARE cheating, but we can't be 100% sure until they take the test.

I see where you're from though, so i'm not too surprised.
Yeah right, blame it from where I came from. The easiest thing to pick on.

Read much closer so your intellect can comprehend better.

He stated that "only guys who are clean, and who are on top", that makes everyone who are on top included. So we have Donaire, Ward, the Klits and basically everyone else who is performing well.

He didn't even stated "who already took the test".
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:01 AM   #24
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Yeah, you'd have been saying the same thing about Marion Jones, Kelli White, Tim Montgomery, Shane Mosley, Chryste Gaines, Michelle Collins, Alvin Harrison, Calvin Harrison . . .

They took all the tests, most of them all year round random tests, and came up clean everytime.

I'm not saying the athletes you named are doping, but I am saying that you have to be dumb to have not learned anything from the past 20 years of sport. The money to be made in this industry is supplying substances that won't show up on tests. The guy that Marquez hired for his last fight claimed to have invented at least 4 anabolic steroids and growth hormones that cannot be detected in tests

So if history has taught us anything its that passing the tests is not a guarantee that an athlete is clean, and an athletes apparent honesty, personality, integrity etc provide absolutely no indication of their likelihood of doping.

The reality is that you're actually more likely to fail a drugs test for accidentally ingesting a banned substance as part of an over the counter supplement than intentionally taking designer steroids. For those who want and can afford them undetectable substances are out there.
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:01 AM   #25
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Default Re: So Far the only top fighters who are 100% clean are:Floyd,Khan,Ortiz,JMM,Cotto,Ca

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My bad if thats the case

I thought he started with JMM
Of course he didn't start with JMM. Talk of Pac negotiations didn't even start yet. How convenient with timing Floyd wanted to clean up the sport after 40 fights and the thought of fighting Pac.
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:04 AM   #26
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Of course he didn't start with JMM. Talk of Pac negotiations didn't even start yet. How convenient with timing Floyd wanted to clean up the sport after 40 fights and the thought of fighting Pac.
That question remains unanswered by Flomos for more than a year now.
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Yeah, you'd have been saying the same thing about Marion Jones, Kelli White, Tim Montgomery, Shane Mosley, Chryste Gaines, Michelle Collins, Alvin Harrison, Calvin Harrison . . .

They took all the tests, most of them all year round random tests, and came up clean everytime.

I'm not saying the athletes you named are doping, but I am saying that you have to be dumb to have not learned anything from the past 20 years of sport. The money to be made in this industry is supplying substances that won't show up on tests. The guy that Marquez hired for his last fight claimed to have invented at least 4 anabolic steroids and growth hormones that cannot be detected in tests

So if history has taught us anything its that passing the tests is not a guarantee that an athlete is clean, and an athletes apparent honesty, personality, integrity etc provide absolutely no indication of of they would dope or not.

The reality is that you're actually more likely to fail a drugs test for accidentally ingesting a banned substance as part of an over the counter supplement than intentionally taking designer steroids. For those who want and can afford them undetectable substances are out there.
The post of a well educated person. The kind of post the TS could only dream of writing. (or reading with some tutoring)
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:11 AM   #28
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maybe if pac's name was here because he has taken the tests and proven himself wrong then pactards wouldn't be so mad.
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:12 AM   #29
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Default Re: So Far the only top fighters who are 100% clean are:Floyd,Khan,Ortiz,Cotto,Canelo

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Yeah, you'd have been saying the same thing about Marion Jones, Kelli White, Tim Montgomery, Shane Mosley, Chryste Gaines, Michelle Collins, Alvin Harrison, Calvin Harrison . . .

They took all the tests, most of them all year round random tests, and came up clean everytime.

I'm not saying the athletes you named are doping, but I am saying that you have to be dumb to have not learned anything from the past 20 years of sport. The money to be made in this industry is supplying substances that won't show up on tests. The guy that Marquez hired for his last fight claimed to have invented at least 4 anabolic steroids and growth hormones that cannot be detected in tests

So if history has taught us anything its that passing the tests is not a guarantee that an athlete is clean, and an athletes apparent honesty, personality, integrity etc provide absolutely no indication of their likelihood of doping.

The reality is that you're actually more likely to fail a drugs test for accidentally ingesting a banned substance as part of an over the counter supplement than intentionally taking designer steroids. For those who want and can afford them undetectable substances are out there.

To be close as clean as possible it don't hurt to take the extra tests, at least that way the viewers and everyone else connected to the sport have peace of mind.

It's all about cleaning the sports image, Berto and Peterson failing so close to each other dont help matters.
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:15 AM   #30
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Feel you man. I hate visiting boxing forums because of these scum bag Mayweather fans constantly hijacking them with their bullshit. I can't wait till Mayweather retires and they go away back to their holes
me too...i dont hate mayweather but his fan base are idiots..... once mayweather retires he will be gone..all these dumb ****s that think he is the business genius will see that his promotion is only good because of him...that will just fade away too , or be like roy jones company that is non existent
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