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Old 05-22-2012, 07:59 AM   #31
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I doubt any fighter, including Marciano, ran anywhere near 25 miles a day. If they did, I imagine their knee joints would be ground down to dust over time. I have read where Marciano used to walk quite a bit in his spare time, in some cases, many miles. He felt he built up his legs and got some of his endurance this way.
Yeah, 25 miles is from the realms of pure fiction. I'm inclined to think the poster was honestly mistaken about that, rather than being deliberatley untruthful.

Walking was something Marciano did constantly, and he placed great emphasis on it. It was probably of greater benefit to him than his 'legendary' miles on the road. (Which I think, was closer to 5 miles a day when in training.)
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:02 AM   #32
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:41 AM   #33
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When you hear about a fighter running N miles per day, it dosn't mean they did that every day.

It just means that they did it on the day that the press were invited to the training camp.

Even so, the road work that some of these early fighters did was incredible.

I have been puting in 90-110 miles a week in the early months of this year, without any significant injury, and I think that some of the early fighters matched that.
Either

a) You are insanely fit

or

b) You have exaggerated the amount of miles/time you did it in

Marciano whose running regime was legendary had figures in this area (about 100 miles a week in the final weeks leading up to a fight) and he was one of the most dedicated fitness freaks the world has ever known. If you really do that then mad props man.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:44 AM   #34
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Yeah, 25 miles is from the realms of pure fiction. I'm inclined to think the poster was honestly mistaken about that, rather than being deliberatley untruthful.

Walking was something Marciano did constantly, and he placed great emphasis on it. It was probably of greater benefit to him than his 'legendary' miles on the road. (Which I think, was closer to 5 miles a day when in training.)
He probably meant kilometers which would be accurate, and you're right peope hear Rocky did 15 miles a day and that he ran everyday even christmas morning but he'd work up to 15 over the course of being in camp for several months and usually only did it with 3-4 weeks till the fight. Like you said he generally did around 5 to 7 miles.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:44 AM   #35
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Marciano whose running regime was legendary had figures in this area (about 100 miles a week in the final weeks leading up to a fight)
No. Where do you guys get this from?
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:59 AM   #36
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I imagine that if championship fights went back to the 15 rd limit then we'd see a return to longer distance running. At any rate, if you read many of the old time training regimens from the ATG's you'll see that they also incorporated interval training as well as distance running in thier preparation for a bout. Many of them would divide thier runs into sprinting sessions (dempsey, Jeffries, Fitzsimmons), or shadow boxed while they ran,as if there was an imaginary opponent in front of them(Robinson,Ali etc..). A boxer fights on his feet after all so running can be very beneficial as far as carryover into the ring. If Vlad had to fight a 15-20 round fight, you'd probably see less swimming and more running. Especially if he was fighting the likes of Ali, Frazier,Holmes,Louis,Dempsey etc..Men who pounded the pavement,or lonely mountain trails in preparation for a big fight.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:40 AM   #37
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Chrsit Almighty, this is a gullible group.
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:34 PM   #38
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Either

a) You are insanely fit

or

b) You have exaggerated the amount of miles/time you did it in

Marciano whose running regime was legendary had figures in this area (about 100 miles a week in the final weeks leading up to a fight) and he was one of the most dedicated fitness freaks the world has ever known. If you really do that then mad props man.
Yes I realy do that.

As others have said though, I am not a boxer who does this merely as one copmponent of his training regime.
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:30 PM   #39
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1. Willard isn't a particularly fit man, as for a prototype for 220lb fitness Compare any round of his to any round of Wlad's to see Wlad working at a much more intense pace
Sure, but Willards endurance is phenomenal for a man of his size.

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2. Wait just to clarify you're saying you're fitter and have better endurance than Bekele?
Not at all, but I am suggesting by analogy that you could never be sure how a modern fighter would perform over 20 rounds without testing them over that distance. Just reducing the pace they fought at will not necesarily give you a 20 round fighter.

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3. You're just showing you haven't boxed again, strength is just as important to long distance fights as stamina. Otherwise why don't flyweights and featherweights win fights to the finish? Strength matters in boxing, for instance as a HW I can do next to nothing for 20 rounds against a FW, block his punches or soak them up, punch him in the ribs occasionally or lean my bodyweight on him to tire him and when he gets tired turn it on and knock him out. I don't need to be remotely fit to do that to a smaller man, and Willard wasn't particularly fit either, he was just bigger and stronger than Jack Johnson
I fully understand that Willards size gave him an advantage in this respect, but it seems a bit of a stretch to suggest that he did next to nothing for 20 rounds. He had to work damn hard for that win.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:06 PM   #40
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Yes I realy do that.

As others have said though, I am not a boxer who does this merely as one copmponent of his training regime.
How much do you weigh in first thing in the morning?
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What sort of distances are we considering as long distance here?
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How much do you weigh in first thing in the morning?
Around the welterweight limit.
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Around the welterweight limit.
I always imagined you to be a big rotund sort of fella, sort of John L Sullivanish of later years.
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I always imagined you to be a big rotund sort of fella, sort of John L Sullivanish of later years.
Sorry to shatter the illusion!
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:19 PM   #45
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I know Hopkins was known for his almost obsessive running as a MW. Anyone got any figures on how much he used to run?
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