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Old 05-24-2012, 09:20 AM   #16
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Default Re: Who in the history of boxing can beat Money @ 130?

Armstrong, Pep, Saddler, Chavez, a slightly overweight Salvador Sanchez, Azuma Nelson, maybe Arguello.
Lets not forget a few important factors. These old timers fought 15 rounders, they fought more often, had more top flight competition and weren't afforded the luxury of fighting who they want when they wanted.
If Floyd had to fight the same schedule as Armstrong , without regard to who and where, his place in history might not have been as it is today.
I certainly couldn't imagine Henry Armstrong pulling some of the feminine stunts that Floyd has..for example, shamelessly avoiding Paq and making up rumors about him , or running away from journalists because you don't like their questions.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:24 AM   #17
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arguello? duran? henry armstrong?
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:24 AM   #18
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but Floyd honestly was very dominant at 130..its hard to point out many mistakes against him at this weight..
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:26 AM   #19
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...Not really feeling Arguello over Mayweather at 130. The one weakness Alexis had, slow feet, could have cost him dear here.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:28 AM   #20
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Only one I can think of, not yet mentioned is Brian Mitchell. I think he may still have the most title defenses at 130?
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:32 AM   #21
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:45 AM   #22
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Only one I can think of, not yet mentioned is Brian Mitchell. I think he may still have the most title defenses at 130?
I'm afraid not.

Mitchell would have absolute fits trying to figure out how to deal with Mayweather's speed and defensive excellence. Mitchell was very good, but was best against pressure fighters, or aggressive fighters.

I think Mayweather would win this going away, and possibly win on cuts. (Mitchell had cut issues later in his career.)
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:50 AM   #23
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its a big misconception that fighters back in the day didnt cut weight, they did. they just didnt cut as much as todays fighters because they never let themselves get out of shape since they had to fight every 4 to 6 weeks.

anyway ill take arguello over mayweather at any weight
That's true, some fighters did cut weight, but it was counterproductive. Jake LaMotta used to cut lots of weight but he wouldn't be able to put it back on like fighters today do. Today, they can strip off 10lbs of water weight, put it back on overnight and be completely healthy by the time of the fight. A fighter with the limitations of the same day weigh in would not be able to strip weight and still be strong.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:30 AM   #24
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Salvador Sanchez, Manny Pacquiao, Alexis Arguello, Henry Armstrong, Duran. And many others in the history of boxing. Especially in 15 round fights.
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Salvador Sanchez, Manny Pacquiao, Alexis Arguello, Henry Armstrong, Duran. And many others in the history of boxing. Especially in 15 round fights.
Interesting choices...particularly Duran, who had just two fights at 130 early in his career, and Sanchez...who had zero fights at the weight.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:30 AM   #27
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Armstrong no chance vs Floyd @ 130. Many analysts agree. Arguello is arguable, everyone else is really a no for me.
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Armstrong no chance vs Floyd @ 130. Many analysts agree. Arguello is arguable, everyone else is really a no for me.
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Duran and Armstrong.
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