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Old 05-27-2012, 04:28 AM   #61
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Kessler beat Froch right?
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Dont you fancy Froch to beat Kessler in Nottingham????

Joe was a joke of a homeboy...he had some of the worst officiating involved in his fight...DAVE PARIS need I say more!
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:40 AM   #62
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Calzaghe was kinda ducking most of the time, Froch isn't. That's greater than being undefeated homeboy.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:08 AM   #63
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tonight we saw why I I always believed Froch would have given Calzaghe hell...he can fight a southpaw...Froch is also a far more advanced fighter than a limited RObin Reid who many believed beat Calzaghe.

Froch needs to get Kessler in Nottingham and reverse that win....and he will officially be greater than Calzaghe
The case can be made now for sure. Froch has fought consistently better opponents than Calzaghe, who only has too great wins. The first was over Kessler whom Froch has lost to, which is a big plus for Joe. However Calzaghe fought the Dane in Wales whereas Froch went to Denmark. The second one was a close decision over Hopkins. Froch has 6-7 win against opponents of similar caliber. If he could reverse his loss against Kessler, he'd be ahead of Calzaghe, imo. That's a pretty big if, though, because Kessler will never fold like Bute.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:09 AM   #64
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Dont you fancy Froch to beat Kessler in Nottingham????

Joe was a joke of a homeboy...he had some of the worst officiating involved in his fight...DAVE PARIS need I say more!
With or without homecooking? In a fair fight, I would give Kessler the edge to beat Froch again because he has the toughness to back up his superior skill. I'd never count out the cobra, though.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:42 AM   #65
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Calzaghe was the better fighter (I hate saying that) with the best single win, but Froch has the better resume by a mile.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:48 AM   #66
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I'm a big fan of Froch, and loved the fight last night! But let's be honest here, Carl lost to the two best guys he's faced, Ward and Kessler. Joe won the biggest fights of his career, Eubank, Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins. Carl's win last night over Bute was comparable to Joe's win over Lacy. However, Joe has wins over Eubank and Kessler, that surpass anything Carl has achieved. People point out Carl's wins over Taylor, Abraham, Pascal and Dirrell. However, What have these guys achieved in the SMW division? As far as I can tell, Taylor and Abraham are MW's who never should have fought at SMW, Pascal is natural at LHW, and Dirrell was green. These wins aren't better than Joe's wins over prime Reid, Mitchell, Woodhall and undefeated Bika. Froch is awesome, and has given the boxing world so much entertainment recently, he's awesome in his own right, without having to bring Calzaghe into it.
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:59 PM   #67
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I'm a big fan of Froch, and loved the fight last night! But let's be honest here, Carl lost to the two best guys he's faced, Ward and Kessler. Joe won the biggest fights of his career, Eubank, Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins. Carl's win last night over Bute was comparable to Joe's win over Lacy. However, Joe has wins over Eubank and Kessler, that surpass anything Carl has achieved. People point out Carl's wins over Taylor, Abraham, Pascal and Dirrell. However, What have these guys achieved in the SMW division? As far as I can tell, Taylor and Abraham are MW's who never should have fought at SMW, Pascal is natural at LHW, and Dirrell was green. These wins aren't better than Joe's wins over prime Reid, Mitchell, Woodhall and undefeated Bika. Froch is awesome, and has given the boxing world so much entertainment recently, he's awesome in his own right, without having to bring Calzaghe into it.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:07 PM   #68
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Froch is already more popular here than Joe was during his career. He fights in a more appealing style and had the advantages of the Super Six and Fight Camp to broaden his appeal. The real key is he doesn't have fanatical fans creating a backlash against him.

That said, Joe did, eventually, beat a couple of faded legends and will always have those names on his resume. Froch has no such name.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:14 PM   #69
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tonight we saw why I I always believed Froch would have given Calzaghe hell...he can fight a southpaw...Froch is also a far more advanced fighter than a limited RObin Reid who many believed beat Calzaghe.

Froch needs to get Kessler in Nottingham and reverse that win....and he will officially be greater than Calzaghe
Calzaghe went undefeated for years and beat a better version of Kessler quite comfortably. Calzaghe is more on the level of Andre Ward who easily outpointed Froch. Froch also lost to Kessler and in many people's eyes also to Andre Dirrell.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:38 PM   #71
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There is no doubt that Froch has faced the slightly better opposition in his career as opposed to JC and he will leave a great legacy. But head to head Calzaghe would outwork Froch and beat him on points the same way he did to Kessler imo. They are both great warriors and deserve massive respect
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #72
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shorter resume but better resume, higher quality opponents means you will always lose a coupleof fightd -Froch.

longer duration champion but low aggregate quality opponents, maintains unbeaten record - Calzgahe.

As it stands, Calzaghe rules but Froch can certainly eclipse Zaghes if he puts in some decent defences.
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