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Old 05-27-2012, 12:37 AM   #31
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Default Re: Where does Bute go? Where does Froch go?

Avenge the Kessler loss for Carl.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:18 AM   #32
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Kessler-Froch II makes a ton of sense. By the time that fight gets made, maybe the Cloud-Pascal winner or the Ward-Dawson winner is next in line depending on the outcome.


As for Bute, he's still a class operator. There's two things I'd recommend:

1)I wouldn't put him in with a puncher straight off, but put him in with a boxer so he can get his confidence back.

2)Don't put him in with too soft a touch because it'll show a lack of faith and damage his image more.

So, if I'm Interbox, I'd go for Andre Dirrell. I think he's the best style matchup for Bute out of the "name" contenders left.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:19 AM   #33
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:23 AM   #34
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Kessler-Froch II makes a ton of sense. By the time that fight gets made, maybe the Cloud-Pascal winner or the Ward-Dawson winner is next in line depending on the outcome.


As for Bute, he's still a class operator. There's two things I'd recommend:

1)I wouldn't put him in with a puncher straight off, but put him in with a boxer so he can get his confidence back.

2)Don't put him in with too soft a touch because it'll show a lack of faith and damage his image more.

So, if I'm Interbox, I'd go for Andre Dirrell. I think he's the best style matchup for Bute out of the "name" contenders left.
Can't imagine they'd want him to avenge his loss with another loss..
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:27 AM   #35
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After froch rematches and beats kessler... I would bet he moves up to face pascal who might be a belt holder by then.

I can also see an old close to 50 year old hopkins calling froch out. Its the kind of thing he does. Where people write him off and he chooses opponents who he thinks he could beat but the wider public see him getting blown away - kind of like the pavlik-hopkins fight.

Pavlik and cleverly are other names out there at 175. Then there are also options of domestic fights with young guns degale and groves. Could be passing of the torch for old froch in a few years
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:29 AM   #36
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Pavlik and cleverly are other names out there at 175.
Expect to see Pavlik at 168.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:29 AM   #37
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Bute: Professional wrestling.


Froch: Whatever he wants. He's obviously now the #1 draw in the division. I would think Kessler. If he wins that, then Ward, of course.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:38 AM   #38
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Can't imagine they'd want him to avenge his loss with another loss..
I don't know about that one man, I think Dirrell matches up horribly with Bute. He won't put the heat on the way Andrade and Froch did and he can't take a punch like them, either. That's a bad fight for Andre.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:40 AM   #39
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Froch walks straight into a rematch with Kessler.

Bute builds his confidence, potentially with a match against Allan Green/Abraham
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:43 AM   #40
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froch can go to 175


bute need to move up and fight the best and prove himself
I tend to think Froch is more likely to move down to 160 than up to 175.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:28 AM   #41
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Bute should hire a respected trainer like Mayweather Sr. in order to improve on his defense. I think his inexperience at this level showed. That is what happens usually when fighters fight low level opponents for a long time " they don't find out how good they are and what they need to improve on because they look so good and their managers and promoters feed into the mental perception the fighter has of himself as that of someone who is invincible".
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:42 AM   #42
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Very interesting points here to consider.

Bute?:

Well I think for him maybe Ward is still on the cards. although much less attractive. He has been badly beaten by Froch but lets not forget that whilst a much less ksilled boxers he is also heavier handed and more willing to mix it up, Ward tends to box and whilst very awkward maybe Bute could be competitive.

Move to light heavy? Bute is very tall for the division and has boxed LH before, maybe a move up in weight could help his punch resistance, it has helped Khan and countless others.

Other then those two I would say just retire, he has made a lot of money and I dont think the wider boxing world is very interested in him building back up in Canada after that loss.


Froch?:

Very hard this. Ward? Anyone want to see this again? Not me.

Kessler rematch is a good option, but feels to me somewhat like its a step back not forwards.

Move the light heavy? Froch pretty much lives at his weight so i think his gain would be less then others fighters in moving up but maybe Dawson? Cloud? Cleverly? [unlikely as a protected FW fighter]
If you saw my tread on why Froch would win, then It says that Froch takes the remach in Canada and loose.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:43 AM   #43
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Bute post-fight quote:

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"I have to give Froch credit for the win; he had good strategy - he surprised me, he hurt me. This is boxing, even the greatest champions have tasted defeat. Right now, after the hardest night for me, since I started boxing, I need a break, after which I will have a talk with my trainer [Larouche] and my promoter [Bedard] and we'll see what we decide. Now it's too early to say whether I want the rematch straight-away; I need to rest, to recover and then we will decide together."

"When I was waiting for him with my back against the ropes, he hit me and that's when I lost the fight. They were hard shots, the shots at the end of the round felt hard. I wanted to catch him in a trap, that's why I waited for him; I thought I could surprise him - I even caught him once, but it wasn't enough. Still, I thought I could carry on like that. I also caught him with an uppercut but it wasn't very strong. He felt it, he smiled back at me, but it wasn't very strong."
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:02 AM   #44
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I'll be interested in a rematch,to see if this was just a fluke
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:17 AM   #45
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".....Now it's too early to say whether I want the rematch straight-away; I need to rest, to recover and then we will decide together."

"......I wanted to catch him in a trap, that's why I waited for him; I thought I could surprise him - I even caught him once, but it wasn't enough. Still, I thought I could carry on like that. I also caught him with an uppercut but it wasn't very strong. ...."
The poor boy is delusional.
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