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Old 05-27-2012, 03:32 AM   #46
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Froch has many options, he can stay at 168 and fight rematches with Ward/Kessler. H can fight Dawson at 168 or 175 if Dawson wins with Ward. He can fight this guy Stieglitz to unify titles. He can fight a rematch with Direll or Kelly Pavlik.

Bute has 2 options, rematch Froch or fight some no hopers to gain confidence back.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:40 AM   #47
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Rematch with Froch I hope.

Yep, it was a terrible loss but I still believe he can beat Froch if he changes his strategy.
LOL! what strategy would that be?
Carl froch will keep coming and Bute has a very bad defence speically on the ropes.
Same results if Froch turns up 100%
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:43 AM   #48
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I read here that Bute was 28 pounds or so up just a month ago and his team talked after the fight about moving up because of weight problems. Again, just all stuff I've read here tonight in these threads.

This got to be a problem with Pavlik. Training sessions were about losing weight, not as much fight related. Still, I didn't see Bute have that guant look I've seen in other fighters that were weight drained so it's all speculation.

Bute's career path is pretty limited now without that belt. They may feel the friendly confines of the Bell Center may be a good calculated risk and that they can do a better job preparing. Even Froch finally started a fight with his hands up instead of around his waist this time out.
Dawson has to be concerned.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:45 AM   #49
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let's be honest if khan can get back from a round 1 ko (out on the floor!!!), then bute can too, esp aa he wasn't actually knocked down and lasted til round 5!! he just needs to work on a few things, maybe hiring ariza would help.......
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:51 AM   #50
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Cleverly is a good option, and imo Froch would kill Nathan. Froch then has a trinket to entice opponents at SM and LHW. At this point I really don't think anyone can criticize Froch and he really should be thinking about making as much dough as he can and getting out of the game in the next couple of years with his health intact.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:43 AM   #51
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I also caught him with an uppercut but it wasn't very strong. He felt it, he smiled back at me, but it wasn't very strong."

Froch was walking through everything Bute threw
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:28 AM   #52
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To be honest I don't see this apparent speed that has been suddenly anointed on Froch; same lack of natural speedy speed as far as I can see. It'd be competitive.
Still faster than Hopkins, and also I think Hopkins has lost enough in the last few years to really make this fight not very exciting. I want to see Froch fight a guy who wants to knock him out by fighting, not use experience to somehow win enough rounds to get a decision. Hopkins is all about ego and not about boxing. Hopkins is not a top fighter anymore. The intrigue about his age would mean more if he kept winning. But he lost to Dawson and Taylor and Calzaghe in the last few years. I want to see Froch fight maybe Kessler or Ward rematches. move up and fight Dawson or of course the Dawson/Ward winner.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:29 AM   #53
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Expect to see Pavlik at 168.
I never thought about Pavlik vs. Froch. Good fight, although at this point Froch has fought a deeper list of fighters than Pavlik.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:43 AM   #54
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I see Froch facing Kessler in the UK next.. and winning this time in another close fight.

Then Froch-Kessler 3 somewhere for the decider.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:45 AM   #55
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Froch should kick KElly PAvlik's ass. That bum claimed he could beat Froch
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:47 AM   #56
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Froch should kick KElly PAvlik's ass. That bum claimed he could beat Froch
Froch would smash Kelly up no doubt.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:08 AM   #57
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Froch would smash Kelly up no doubt.
Froch would make Pavlik an alcoholic again.

I think he'll beat him easier than he beat Bute. Actually Bute should fight Pavlik to regain his confidence, then maybe the rematch in Canada with Froch.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:40 AM   #58
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No rematch.

Bute needs to build himself back up with some confidence wins back in Canada.

Froch rematch with Kessler.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:42 AM   #59
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I really think the glaringly obvious choice is no Bute-Froch rematch and a Froch rematch with Kessler.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:57 AM   #60
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"I have to give Froch credit for the win; he had good strategy - he surprised me, he hurt me. This is boxing, even the greatest champions have tasted defeat. Right now, after the hardest night for me, since I started boxing, I need a break, after which I will have a talk with my trainer [Larouche] and my promoter [Bedard] and we'll see what we decide. Now it's too early to say whether I want the rematch straight-away; I need to rest, to recover and then we will decide together."

"When I was waiting for him with my back against the ropes, he hit me and that's when I lost the fight. They were hard shots, the shots at the end of the round felt hard. I wanted to catch him in a trap, that's why I waited for him; I thought I could surprise him - I even caught him once, but it wasn't enough. Still, I thought I could carry on like that. I also caught him with an uppercut but it wasn't very strong. He felt it, he smiled back at me, but it wasn't very strong."
Froch is a sick sick man!! a monster.
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