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Old 05-27-2012, 08:16 AM   #61
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Default Re: Does Froch now have a better record than Calzaghe?

Shows how wobbly Calzaghe's legacy was when someone has already come along and bettered it.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:17 AM   #62
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Default Re: Does Froch now have a better record than Calzaghe?

Haven't read any of the thread.

Simple answer to simple question....

No.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:19 AM   #63
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@ Prescott- What does Carl need to do to better Joe's record, iyo?
He needs one more career-defining win IMO to be able to have a case for having the better record. If he beat Kessler clearly in a rematch or stepped up to 175 and beat Dawson that would do it. If he could find a way to beat Ward, which i'm not sure he could to be honest, that would definitely put him above Joe with a bit of daylight between them. He's not far off, i'm not saying that Calzaghe's record is significantly better, but at this stage i feel he still has the edge over Froch.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:21 AM   #64
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Shows how wobbly Calzaghe's legacy was when someone has already come along and bettered it.
Stop talking ****.

Everyone is saying that Froch has the best resume in boxing for the last 20 years. No fighter is doing what Froch is doing.

So in reality it has taken something special to topple Calzaghe.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:29 AM   #65
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Everyone is saying that Froch has the best resume in boxing for the last 20 years.


I believe you will get an argument about that, from Messrs: De La Hoya, Hopkins, Marquez, Pacquiao, Barrera, Marquez, Lewis, Holyfield, Mora...
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:31 AM   #66
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Not really, given that Froch has accomplished more in about 8 fights than Calzaghe did in more than 20.

Only Pacquiao in that period is anywhere near Carl in that respect.... even he's had a couple of easy fights, like Mosley and Hatton.

There are still fights out there for him too, he's not faced Dawson yet, there might be someone moving up from 160 also. Great time to be a Froch fan.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:31 AM   #67
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Yes, and its going to get better!
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:32 AM   #68
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I believe you will get an argument about that, from Messrs: De La Hoya, Hopkins, Marquez, Pacquiao, Barrera, Marquez, Lewis, Holyfield, Mora...
It's what a lot of people think.

Not me.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:34 AM   #69
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Yes, and its going to get better!
it could also get worse.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:36 AM   #70
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Not really, given that Froch has accomplished more in about 8 fights than Calzaghe did in more than 20.
Come on, that's complete nonsense.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:40 AM   #71
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Avenge the loss against Kessler and Froch is pretty much there IMO. The thing Joe has in his favour is the win over Hopkins. We all know what Hopkins went on to achieve after that loss which gives Joe a lot of credibility. The Bute win for Froch will be looked at in the same light as the Lacy win for Joe I think. Time will tell what happens to Bute.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:40 AM   #72
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Not really, given that Froch has accomplished more in about 8 fights than Calzaghe did in more than 20.

Only Pacquiao in that period is anywhere near Carl in that respect.... even he's had a couple of easy fights, like Mosley and Hatton.

There are still fights out there for him too, he's not faced Dawson yet, there might be someone moving up from 160 also. Great time to be a Froch fan.
Hatton and Mosley easy fights? Jeez. On a p4p basis they are clearly better than anyone Froch has beaten, aside from Bute who - according to most on here - is actually **** as it happens, so arguably even he isn't any better.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:40 AM   #73
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Froch had a better resume ages ago and it's only getting better.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:43 AM   #74
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Froch clearly has the better resume IMO.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:44 AM   #75
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Froch had a better resume ages ago and it's only getting better.
You're right! It was the victory over old man Johnson that put Froch clear of Joe.
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