has froch ever cut the ring off as well or punched as quick as he did last night?

[lufcrazy]

He's had the same trainer all his career and they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but carl definitely had a few new tricks last night.

Even against abraham he didn't look that sharp and quick.

Is it really just a case of working on his faults from the ward fight or is it that bute really is such a hype job?

Personally I think bute was well deserving of his number 2 spot with stoppage victories over andrade, miranda and magee as well as points victories over bika and johnson. I think he was a proven fighter but he was just a level behind.

Thoughts?

[happydrinks]

He's said on twitter he reigned back the power for speed. Don't know how much of a difference it made, mind.

I don't think he cut the ring off that well, I think Bute just realised he wasn't getting success in the middle of the ring and backed off to try and walk Froch onto something but Froch was obviously too experienced to fall for it.

[DaveyboyEssexUK]

[quote=happydrinks;12956847]He's said on twitter he reigned back the power for speed. Don't know how much of a difference it made, mind.

I don't think he cut the ring off that well, I think Bute just realised he wasn't getting success in the middle of the ring and backed off to try and walk Froch onto something but Froch was obviously too experienced to fall for it.


Well in boxing terms when you use the brain the brawn will follow

[lufcrazy]

I thought he was awesome at cutting the ring off!

[Primadonna Kool]

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[Wilson11]

Originally Posted by happydrinks

He's said on twitter he reigned back the power for speed. Don't know how much of a difference it made, mind.

I don't think he cut the ring off that well, I think Bute just realised he wasn't getting success in the middle of the ring and backed off to try and walk Froch onto something but Froch was obviously too experienced to fall for it.

If that's true then it worked very well. I suppose it isn't so great having loads of power if you're as slow as as a tortoise throwing it. He had more than enough power last weekend.

[lufcrazy]

He didn't seem fast at first but in the second round both his speed of hand and foot looked career best to me.

[boranbkk]

Originally Posted by Wilson11

If that's true then it worked very well. I suppose it isn't so great having loads of power if you're as slow as as a tortoise throwing it. He had more than enough power last weekend.

I agree especially against a (supposed) slick puncher like Bute who can counter well.

In the short "Behind the Ropes" documentry before the fight you saw McCraken saying to him "you need to hit him with speed, if you load up it won't work with this guy" or some thing along those lines. So they'd clearly been working on his speed throughout the camp wary of Bute supposed slick counters.

Against Ward he tried to load up to much with power shots and it cost him, so they knew he need to focus and improve on speed, he's go plenty of natural power already.

[lufcrazy]

Completely agree... I still don't think he can beat ward but he's certainly improved since that fight.