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Old 05-28-2012, 11:02 AM   #46
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I've read that the rematch clause with Bute isnt enforced if the fight is over in less than 6 rounds or if a points decision is over 6 rounds difference.

Froch is on good terms with Kessler & Mikkel has said before he'd come to Britian to fight Froch, he has an English mother & has fought over here before.

The only thing is I thought he was being lined up to fight the winner of Steiglitz-Abraham so Froch might fight end up someone else first, maybe a rematch with Pascal?
Surely Hearn would have said that, post-fight.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:04 AM   #47
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I put £20 on Kessler.

Just wondering when I'd get my winnings? Would it be when the fight is announced or will they not pay out until both fighters are in the ring?

Any help on this would be much appreciated, thanks.
that's what I was thinking, it seems a logical fight and 7/4 seems good odds
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:26 AM   #48
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you'd have to ring ladbrokes to get the rules confirmed but I'd be 99.9% sure they wouldn't pay out until the fighters were in the ring.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:37 AM   #49
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im all over this!

get it done!
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:45 AM   #50
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Kessler has changed since he fought Froch. Up to the fight he discovered trouble with his sight - and in the fight he missed punches he should“nt miss.
He could“ve retired after defeating Froch. But he decided otherwise - and today, two years after..no double-vision...and an improved boxer. He has matured.
And with all my respect to Froch and the way he handled Bute...I believe that Kessler is at least 10% better today. Froch is exactly the same.
A deciding matter could be home-advantage. Froch may be more aggresive with a massive back-up. But attacking Kessler the way he forced his way to Bute“s jaw could easily end up with Froch getting stopped.
I go for Kessler in the rematch.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:54 AM   #51
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If he does im going for sure....
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:02 PM   #52
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If he does im going for sure....
Get in the Queue.. lol. I reckon they need somewhere bigger than the Capital FM arena. Everyone who was there saturday night will want to return.. Plus most of those who missed out.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:03 PM   #53
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kessler vs froch 2 is a fight id love to see, id happily pay ppv for that.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:13 PM   #54
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Get in the Queue.. lol. I reckon they need somewhere bigger than the Capital FM arena. Everyone who was there saturday night will want to return.. Plus most of those who missed out.
Yeah definately need a bigger venue..
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:00 PM   #55
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8/1 Clev...
9/1 Groves
14/1 Degale
Pavlik 16s
Hopkins 20s


I like the look of that 7/4... they both want the fight, and kessler will come to nottingham. Can't see the Ward fight happening he won't travel & I dunno if Carl really wants it. .. The Pavlik fight is pointless.
Not sure that it makes much difference but Kessler isn't ranked by the IBF at 168 or 175, Degale & Pavlik are, though for obvious reasons apart from Groves you wouldn't expect any of the others to be listed, Bute obviously still listed as champ until they publish the new ones and will probably remain in the rankings.

Main worries about betting on Kessler though would be that he may well get injured in the lead up and you end up with a late sub or Sauerland decide to have him face the winner of Abraham vs Stielgitz instead, can't see them really fancying the Froch fight as he looks done.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:03 PM   #56
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Yeah definately need a bigger venue..
A football stadium would kill the atmosphere though.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:13 PM   #57
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Kessler has changed since he fought Froch. Up to the fight he discovered trouble with his sight - and in the fight he missed punches he should“nt miss.
He could“ve retired after defeating Froch. But he decided otherwise - and today, two years after..no double-vision...and an improved boxer. He has matured.
And with all my respect to Froch and the way he handled Bute...I believe that Kessler is at least 10% better today. Froch is exactly the same.
A deciding matter could be home-advantage. Froch may be more aggresive with a massive back-up. But attacking Kessler the way he forced his way to Bute“s jaw could easily end up with Froch getting stopped.
I go for Kessler in the rematch.
How on earth have you deduced this? Kessler was hurt by Alan Green badly in the first round, he may have knocked him out - but that was expected. Glen Johnson who isn't a big puncher managed the same. The signs were worrying regardless of the end result.

Froch had possibly his best performance Saturday night.

How you come to the conclusion Kessler is 'matured' and better than ever and Froch is the same on the basis of evidence is baffling. Froch may well be the same, but that's pretty damn good and good enough to force a close fight in the first (which I scored to Kessler clear) but Kessler clearly isn't even the same fighter he was in that fight, let alone the fighter that fought Calzaghe that was much sharper.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:59 PM   #58
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A football stadium would kill the atmosphere though.
Yea fair point.. MEN? Can they do football stadiums in September/October anyway? It will **** up the pitch?!?
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:07 PM   #59
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Lets ****ing have it. Make the mother****ing fight happen.

Nottingham, the rematch, revenge or redemption, air the first fight every day for a month leading up to it. It can be huge. Sell out wherever.

Carl shouldn't fight any shitters. He won't get up for it and is the sort to look sloppy and shit against fighters who won't engage. Him and Kessler will be a real dust up and following KEsslers shakey first round, now is the time.

THIS IS THE FIGHT TO MAKE!
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:15 PM   #60
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Remember when Froch felt he ended Kesslers career?. Sick guy .

Well if this gets made he will finish his days at top level, I think if he listened to Rob in first fight instead of war mongering he'd of won that even though Froch edged it on my card. Kessler punched well to body and that's what changed fight in his favor. Froch i think has improved since then technically and tactically.
Yup i agree there about Frochs improvements, i had their fight a draw, but this time i think Froch will win.
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