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Old 05-29-2012, 08:42 AM   #1
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Default Worst HW title challengers tournament 1909-1963 [part 1, Old School Crew]

Worst HW title challengers tournament 1909-1963 [part 1]

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How about a canny quirky 2-part tourney of teh worst heavyweight title challengers from 1909-1963 eras And 1964-2012 eras, with winners of each 1st part tourney meeting winners from the other part of the tourney??? I, the Hookmeister think this is a proper mint idea for a bit of banter.

PART 1 1909-1963 [Old School Crew]


1912 "Fireman Sam" Flynn VS 1923 "Caveman Farmhand" Firpo

1915 Jesse "Prehistoric Farmhand" Willard VS 1940 Johnny "Tax Dodger" Paycheck

1920 Billy "Brights Disease" Miske VS 1941 Tony "Me Gusto!" Musto

1921 "Crapola" Carpentier VS 1957 Peter "Rancid" Rademacher



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Old 05-29-2012, 08:51 AM   #2
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I have to take issue with some of your picks here.

Willard won the title, so he was obviously qualified to challenge for it.

Whatever you think of Flynn and Firpo as fighters, they both had verry good credentials to challenge for the title at the time.

Musto was a spoiler with some good winsd on his resume. Many people saw him as a high risk low reward title challenger.

Carpintier held a peice of the heavyweight title.

It is hard to see how any of these guys could be regarded as poor choices of title opponents, let alone among the worst.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:55 AM   #3
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I have to take issue with some of your picks here.

Willard won the title, so he was obviously qualified to challenge for it.

Whatever you think of Flynn and Firpo as fighters, they both had verry good credentials to challenge for the title at the time.

Musto was a spoiler with some good winsd on his resume. Many people saw him as a high risk low reward title challenger.

Carpintier held a peice of the heavyweight title.

It is hard to see how any of these guys could be regarded as poor choices of title opponents, let alone among the worst.
I mean worst in head-2-head terms m8, But your input is appreciated,,,,,

Being a XPERT on Old Schoolers, share your opinion on them 4 match-ups i made please Janni
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:54 AM   #4
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I mean worst in head-2-head terms m8, But your input is appreciated,,,,,

Being a XPERT on Old Schoolers, share your opinion on them 4 match-ups i made please Janni.


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Obviously, I would be more confident about some of these picks than others.

I would expect Firpo to beat Flynn, because this would basicaly come down to a slug fest, and Flynn would not be able to out slug Firpo.

Willard was a class above Paycheck and would be able to employ his physical advantages to break him down.

Tony Musto actualy beat some prety good fighters, and while Miske was dangerous even with brights diseasr, I fancy that Musto would be awkward enough to take this version.

Carpintier would be far too much for Rademacher to handel in his pro debut.

My least confident pick is Musto to beat Miske, and my most confident is Carpintier to beat Rademacher.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:04 AM   #5
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Obviously, I would be more confident about some of these picks than others.

I would expect Firpo to beat Flynn, because this would basicaly come down to a slug fest, and Flynn would not be able to out slug Firpo.

Willard was a class above Paycheck and would be able to employ his physical advantages to break him down.

Tony Musto actualy beat some prety good fighters, and while Miske was dangerous even with brights diseasr, I fancy that Musto would be awkward enough to take this version.

Carpintier would be far too much for Rademacher to handel in his pro debut.

My least confident pick is Musto to beat Miske, and my most confident is Carpintier to beat Rademacher.
Your XPERT-opinion will be strongly weighted.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:11 AM   #6
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Where's my man, Tony Ross? Some considered his bout versus Johnson to be for the title. And by all accounts he was horrible.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:44 AM   #7
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Worst HW title challengers tournament 1909-1963 [part 1]

I'm back with original status, teh greatest poster ever to make it.

How about a canny quirky 2-part tourney of teh worst heavyweight title challengers from 1909-1963 eras And 1964-2012 eras, with winners of each 1st part tourney meeting winners from the other part of the tourney??? I, the Hookmeister think this is a proper mint idea for a bit of banter.

PART 1 1909-1963 [Old School Crew]

1912 "Fireman Sam" Flynn VS 1923 "Caveman Farmhand" Firpo

1915 Jesse "Prehistoric Farmhand" Willard VS 1940 Johnny "Tax Dodger" Paycheck

1920 Billy "Brights Disease" Miske VS 1941 Tony "Me Gusto!" Musto

1921 "Crapola" Carpentier VS 1957 Peter "Rancid" Rademacher



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Hi there Hook

Carpentier,Miske,Firpo and Willard go through.
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I guess that Willard would probably win the tournament.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:50 PM   #9
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Hi there Hook

Carpentier,Miske,Firpo and Willard go through.
Agree Stevie m8.

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I guess that Willard would probably win the tournament.
Willy MIGHT beat everyone in this half of the tournament if he is lucky, But he still has to face people from teh Modern half.
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Willy MIGHT beat everyone in this half of the tournament if he is lucky, But he still has to face people from teh Modern half.
Given that the modern half will likley be more deserving of their places in the tournament, I still like his chances.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:13 PM   #11
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Ross, Kaufman, Brennan, HENNEY, Roper, Barone, Beshore, Jim Johnson, ****ell, Valentino, London, Burman and Braddock were all pretty poor challengers too-I can see your 8 whipping the worst 8 of mine!
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Are we picking winners or losers???
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Ross, Kaufman, Brennan, HENNEY, Roper, Barone, Beshore, Jim Johnson, ****ell, Valentino, London, Burman and Braddock were all pretty poor challengers too-I can see your 8 whipping the worst 8 of mine!
Can anybody who would have been considerd a top 10 challenger at the time they fought for the title seriously be considered one of the worst title challengers of all time or even their own time?
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:40 PM   #14
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Say what you will about Braddock's fighting abilty, he did earn his title shot.

I dont think Jess Willard should make the list, or George for that matter.
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Ross, Kaufman, Brennan, HENNEY, Roper, Barone, Beshore, Jim Johnson, ****ell, Valentino, London, Burman and Braddock were all pretty poor challengers too-I can see your 8 whipping the worst 8 of mine!
I dunno about whipping man, just go along with my picks dude.

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Are we picking winners or losers???
Winners.


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