Margarito vs Canelo

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Originally Posted by Bazooka

That last round he held 85% of the round, an what he did throw just didnt have the same zip and you could see he had to dig down just to throw those shots, what was funny, at the end of the round I said if the Dr doesnt stop this fight Cottos getting stopped again and sure enough.

However even Margarito knew he was done, look at his gesture at the end of that last round, he motioned to Garcia cutting at his throat with the Glove saying he is all done, he even said it once he got to the corner just before he sat down.

and the mother fucking Dr saved Cottos ass, now the problem I have with this stoppage is this, the Rios Murray fight on the undercard, Murrays eyes were both shut as early as the 5th round and he was allowed to continue taking that kind of beating....

Not only that, but when you fly a fighter out from mexico knowing he has to break camp for additional test, and those test confirm him fit to fight, and you license the man you give that fighter every opportunity you give the next man, you dont put a handicap on the fight

Cotto knew he could get this result which is why he insisted on NY only, its why he insisted on bigger gloves, and its why he felt he needed Richardson, Cotto does not believe in himself or his trainer, if that were the case why the catchweight?

Why does it matter which brand gloves the other fighter uses? why NY or no Fight? why Richardson?

with all the controversy with the first one, the fight being in his back yard, and the meaning of the fight, u really think cotto would've went down again and gave up?

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by MAIN

with all the controversy with the first one, the fight being in his back yard, and the meaning of the fight, u really think cotto would've went down again and gave up?

What Controversy?
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[Dorfmeister]

Despite having stopped Cintron twice too and others, margo is pretty much washed up and even having the last thing a fighter loses, another fight such as Canelo-Mosley is just a waist of time. canelo is young, full of energy to unleash more than 25 punches per round. Margarito is not up to that. He's done with that orbital eye injury...

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Originally Posted by Bazooka

What Controversy?
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rocks or not, there was still controversy

but you didn't answer my question

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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

Despite having stopped Cintron twice too and others, margo is pretty much washed up and even having the last thing a fighter loses, another fight such as Canelo-Mosley is just a waist of time. canelo is young, full of energy to unleash more than 25 punches per round. Margarito is not up to that. He's done with that orbital eye injury...

true, but i'm surprised folks are really disagreeing with this

I thought tony would be exactly what canelo is looking for, i mean the recipe sounds the same right, tony isn't any different than shame, baldomir, cintron, etc

[larryx2012]

no

[Divi253]

Originally Posted by Post Box

That win against Roberto Garcia in 2010 must have been really impressive for it to put him in line for 3 world title shots on the trot.

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by MAIN

rocks or not, there was still controversy

but you didn't answer my question

Controversy in Cottos fragile little world, but that doesnt make it the truth, and to answer your question, He would have quit again yes, he did it again in the Pacquiao fight.
The man has quit in him when he is faced with the moment of truth both times it was obvious he was going to meet the canvas and he just stopped trying.
I do not understand how suddenly the moment Floyd and Cotto announced their bout, Suddenly Miguel was no longer a shot fighter what the fuck kind of sense does that make, How do you go from being shot, to being unshot?

Then they in turn spin it around and argue Floyd fought a healthy Cotto who wasnt weight drained.
Which is bullshit as well, when Pac fought him at 145, Miguel knew he could make that safely, thats why he took the fight.
and besides Cottos a grown man he agreed to the contracted weight so why is that an issue?
What should be noted is when a fighter does challenge another fighter to a catch weight and deliberately fails to make the contracted weight agreement especially when the fighter moving up is moving up two divisions to face him.

So you tell me whats worse, catchweights in which both fighters agree and honor the contract or a catchweight agreement in which the bigger fighter doesnt even try to take the extra weight off?

[ripcity]

No. Margarito's a bum with a good chin. I take that back he has a damaged chin.

[sugarngold]

Margarito would be a nice name for Canelo to hang from his belt. Any time you can match up two bad ass Mexicans the results are always explosive.

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Originally Posted by Bazooka

Controversy in Cottos fragile little world, but that doesnt make it the truth, and to answer your question, He would have quit again yes, he did it again in the Pacquiao fight.
The man has quit in him when he is faced with the moment of truth both times it was obvious he was going to meet the canvas and he just stopped trying.
I do not understand how suddenly the moment Floyd and Cotto announced their bout, Suddenly Miguel was no longer a shot fighter what the fuck kind of sense does that make, How do you go from being shot, to being unshot?

Then they in turn spin it around and argue Floyd fought a healthy Cotto who wasnt weight drained.
Which is bullshit as well, when Pac fought him at 145, Miguel knew he could make that safely, thats why he took the fight.
and besides Cottos a grown man he agreed to the contracted weight so why is that an issue?
What should be noted is when a fighter does challenge another fighter to a catch weight and deliberately fails to make the contracted weight agreement especially when the fighter moving up is moving up two divisions to face him.

So you tell me whats worse, catchweights in which both fighters agree and honor the contract or a catchweight agreement in which the bigger fighter doesnt even try to take the extra weight off?

that whole "shot/unshot" is from the flomo's, shouldn't surprise u and shouldn't listen as well

while i could see what you're saying, i don't think cotto would've went down on the 2nd fight, just too much on the line, but if they were to fight a 3rd time, not in ny, i could see something else

i never thought that cotto catchweight with manny crap was anything, just people tryin to hate and doin a poor job at it

folks are quick to jump on the fact that cotto is "undefeated" according to lil floyd, yet ignore the fact that lil floyd also said that cotto lost to clottey

and of course its worse for the bigger man to agree to a catchweight and not honor it, but that's another subject

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Originally Posted by sugarngold

Margarito would be a nice name for Canelo to hang from his belt. Any time you can match up two bad ass Mexicans the results are always explosive.

pretty much that's all that canelo has been doing is putting "big names" under his belt who are done fighters

[RobertV77]

Originally Posted by MAIN

Would anyone like to see this? Anyone think Margarito would have enough Mexican pride to not lose to a boy?

No. A semi retired disgrace like Margarito is not a suitable opponent for a champion of Canelo's caliber