May-Pac contract from 2010 (per Yahoo Sports)

[Toontoon]

I think we can safely say that Pacquiao was to blame for the first fight falling through.

[Toontoon]

Originally Posted by SugarRay

Why isn't the same thing offered now? Floyd changing the rules again. Avoided all the top fighters and went into retirement when they were all fighting each other. No excuses. He had his chances but, chose not to fight because his health.

Probably because his fights with Mosley and Ortiz were in the top 3 money making ppv's for non heavyweights, you can bet the Cotto fight brought in more money than that too so now he's well in the driving position for a bigger split, at the time of Pacquiao beating Cotto Mayweather had only had one fight that drew that much ppv and that was Oscar.

As for him avoiding all of the top boxers, he had an 8 page contract and Pacquiao refused to sign it so it wasn't Mayweather avoiding anything, all Manny had to do was sign it and we would have had the fight by now.

[oibighead]

Pac ducks drug tests to roid himself up

Pac is a cheat who ducked Mayweather

[ApatheticLeader]

What a mess

Guys, it's time to move on...

[Scar]

Originally Posted by papadoc28

See now your nitpicking. Olympic style, random, urine only, blood only, etc. Extra testing is extra testing. Same shit, different fight. I've not heard one fighter complain about going through the Olympic style testing. Not even after the fight when all is said and done. Probably because it's nowhere near as big as a deal as Pac & TR are painting it as.

Nitpicking?, which obviously means you have no answer to my post. It is nitpicking to you but it surely isn't nitpicking to the fighter subjected to those tests during training camp.

Originally Posted by papadoc28

Floyd's got more to lose than Pac. Pac loses so what. He's lost before and he's lost against the best fighter on planet. With so many fighters getting caught these days can you blame Floyd for feeling the way he does. If he's going to lose, it will be because of someone's natural talent and not because of some juice. We should be giving him a standing ovation. But no one could have predicted Pac would have reacted like he did. Not even his most nuthugging of nuthuggers could have saw that coming.

Of course Mayweather has more to lose, Pacquiao has A LOT to lose as well, not more than Mayweather's 0 and reputation but he definitely has a lot to lose. For one thing, Pacquiao might be accused for using steroids in previous fights by a lot of fans if Mayweather makes him look bad and beats him.

[SugarRay]

Originally Posted by Toontoon

Probably because his fights with Mosley and Ortiz were in the top 3 money making ppv's for non heavyweights, you can bet the Cotto fight brought in more money than that too so now he's well in the driving position for a bigger split, at the time of Pacquiao beating Cotto Mayweather had only had one fight that drew that much ppv and that was Oscar.

As for him avoiding all of the top boxers, he had an 8 page contract and Pacquiao refused to sign it so it wasn't Mayweather avoiding anything, all Manny had to do was sign it and we would have had the fight by now.

Floyd stipulated a test that was unconventional which PAC didn't agree so, Floyd should get the blamed for it. If it were the other way PAC would have been to blame but, it wasn't. Your lines above doesn't explain why Floyd didn't fight all the top guys when he should have.