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Old 06-02-2012, 09:11 AM   #31
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

Dawson beats Ward at any weight...


What has Ward done that makes him so unbeatable? Mauled his way through the Super Six? Out boxed Froch? The guy who got out boxed by Jermaine Taylor for most of that fight? Going the distance with Green? Green the guy that got stopped by Kessler and Johnson? GTFOH...

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Old 06-02-2012, 09:52 AM   #32
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

Dawson is the most overrated fighter in all boxing IMO. He's lucky LHW is lacking in top drawer talent....but he's still the guy that lost to Pascal and Johnson (IMO).

He has natural skill, but akin to someone like Linares, flashy talent isn't going to make you a top fighter.

The only person I think has even a remote chance of beating Ward at 168 / 175 is Dirrel (presuming he's 100%). I'd still put a lot of money on Ward though, it pains me to say it but he's a very special fighter.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:02 AM   #33
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Dawson is the most overrated fighter in all boxing IMO. He's lucky LHW is lacking in top drawer talent....but he's still the guy that lost to Pascal and Johnson (IMO).
I had Johnson winning their first fight by 2 points and Dawson had no business losing to a fighter like Pascal
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He has natural skill, but akin to someone like Linares, flashy talent isn't going to make you a top fighter..
I think his main problem is his mind set which he is going to have to change if he wants to stick around.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:03 AM   #34
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Dawson beats Ward at any weight...
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I would Favour Dawson at lhw, but not at a weight he hasnt fought at in years.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:13 AM   #35
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I can only see one winner in that fight and think its a one sided affair.

The fights at SMW, where Dawson hasnt fought for years.

Dawson has no SMW pedigree of note. None. In fact Dawson jumped out of SMW to miss Calzaghe when he was almost in line to fight him. People may say Dawson wanted to fight Calzaghe, but look at the full picture. Dawson wins the WBO NABO SMW title to line himself up, then jumps up to SMW, yet now years later he can fight at SMW. Odd.

Dawsons best wins are over much older fighters, consider Johnson/Tarver are 14/15 years older than Dawson, and both have been very exposed. Yet some felt Johnson beat Dawson and at SMW, Johnson isnt very good at all and lost more than he has won.
Dawsons best win is a MD over a fighter 18 years older than him.
Adamek wasnt a good LHW at all, and I dont take much notice from that. Who did Adamek beat at LHW? He went to the limit with Briggs twice who was KOd by a jab.

Ward likes to fight in close and I think he will hold Dawson and work in close where I dont think Chad will be comfortable.

Look at the form line when Dawson fought someone who would jump in against him in Pascal.

I think people get fooled because they recognise the name Tarver and call it a big win.

Neither has fought a prime top fighter in their division, but Ward has fought in better class and especially at SMW.

I said that Pascal would beat Dawson, due to the fact Dawsons wins were not over prime top fighters, and that hasnt changed.
There is only one winner in this fight and afterwards people will claim its an amazing win, but you read it here first.

Easy win for Ward over a fighter who isnt a top SMW.
classic boxrecian analysis from chief Boxrec scholar bailey. In fact, it's going to be a close fight as anyone who actually watches boxing can tell that Chad Dawson is a very, very good fighter who will present problems for Ward with his height, good jab, defense, and athletic ability.

And a boxrecian tidbit just for bailey: Dawson beat Hopkins better than Calzaghe did
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:29 AM   #36
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He has a chance, the divisions are weak at this time and he is only fighting leftovers.
Don't think they are weak. Certainly not the greatest they've been but not weak.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:31 AM   #37
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

Dawson is a better and more proven fighter than Ward. At 175, he beats him convincingly.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:35 AM   #38
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I can only see one winner in that fight and think its a one sided affair.

The fights at SMW, where Dawson hasnt fought for years.

Dawson has no SMW pedigree of note. None. In fact Dawson jumped out of SMW to miss Calzaghe when he was almost in line to fight him. People may say Dawson wanted to fight Calzaghe, but look at the full picture. Dawson wins the WBO NABO SMW title to line himself up, then jumps up to SMW, yet now years later he can fight at SMW. Odd.

Dawsons best wins are over much older fighters, consider Johnson/Tarver are 14/15 years older than Dawson, and both have been very exposed. Yet some felt Johnson beat Dawson and at SMW, Johnson isnt very good at all and lost more than he has won.
Dawsons best win is a MD over a fighter 18 years older than him.
Adamek wasnt a good LHW at all, and I dont take much notice from that. Who did Adamek beat at LHW? He went to the limit with Briggs twice who was KOd by a jab.

Ward likes to fight in close and I think he will hold Dawson and work in close where I dont think Chad will be comfortable.

Look at the form line when Dawson fought someone who would jump in against him in Pascal.

I think people get fooled because they recognise the name Tarver and call it a big win.

Neither has fought a prime top fighter in their division, but Ward has fought in better class and especially at SMW.

I said that Pascal would beat Dawson, due to the fact Dawsons wins were not over prime top fighters, and that hasnt changed.
There is only one winner in this fight and afterwards people will claim its an amazing win, but you read it here first.

Easy win for Ward over a fighter who isnt a top SMW.

Easy Keep that opinion to yourself .. You really don't know boxing then if you think this will be a cake walk for Ward ..This isn't Bute now ..
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:55 PM   #39
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

Dawson beats Ward at any weight...you will see
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:55 PM   #40
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

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classic boxrecian analysis from chief Boxrec scholar bailey. In fact, it's going to be a close fight as anyone who actually watches boxing can tell that Chad Dawson is a very, very good fighter who will present problems for Ward with his height, good jab, defense, and athletic ability.

And a boxrecian tidbit just for bailey: Dawson beat Hopkins better than Calzaghe did

Thank you for exposing this a Ward Hater Bait Thread.. How can a Ward Hater.. A Joe C nut hugger.. and Boxrec educated fan have the nerve to put up this froad of a predection and back it up with fluff.. **** OFF FAILIEY.. Beside the pack of haters you run with... You have nothing relevant to add to the BOXING Community.. (SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME)



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Easy Keep that opinion to yourself .. You really don't know boxing then if you think this will be a cake walk for Ward ..This isn't Bute now ..
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:30 PM   #41
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I can only see one winner in that fight and think its a one sided affair.

The fights at SMW, where Dawson hasnt fought for years.

Dawson has no SMW pedigree of note. None. In fact Dawson jumped out of SMW to miss Calzaghe when he was almost in line to fight him. People may say Dawson wanted to fight Calzaghe, but look at the full picture. Dawson wins the WBO NABO SMW title to line himself up, then jumps up to SMW, yet now years later he can fight at SMW. Odd.

Dawsons best wins are over much older fighters, consider Johnson/Tarver are 14/15 years older than Dawson, and both have been very exposed. Yet some felt Johnson beat Dawson and at SMW, Johnson isnt very good at all and lost more than he has won.






Dawsons best win is a MD over a fighter 18 years older than him.
Adamek wasnt a good LHW at all, and I dont take much notice from that. Who did Adamek beat at LHW? He went to the limit with Briggs twice who was KOd by a jab.

Ward likes to fight in close and I think he will hold Dawson and work in close where I dont think Chad will be comfortable.

Look at the form line when Dawson fought someone who would jump in against him in Pascal.

I think people get fooled because they recognise the name Tarver and call it a big win.

Neither has fought a prime top fighter in their division, but Ward has fought in better class and especially at SMW.

I said that Pascal would beat Dawson, due to the fact Dawsons wins were not over prime top fighters, and that hasnt changed.
There is only one winner in this fight and afterwards people will claim its an amazing win, but you read it here first.

Easy win for Ward over a fighter who isnt a top SMW.
I think bailey is really trying to say that with a win over Dawson he should be considered he greatest SMW of all time. I know the division has a very limited history and talent pool so its not a very big accomplishment but yeah, I gotta agree with bailey for once WARD WILL BE THE GOAT @ SMW very soon (and I am a Bute fan and hate is SOG bullshit)

You all have to admit that Ward was Floydesque is his win over Froch who looked like a rookie. This is the same Froch who shat on another British SMW record in only a few years. Yes, I agree with bailey this is a great era for the SMW division (easily the best), it has finally grown out of the shadows of the LHW and MW divisions. It is now greater than a regional belt and a the ugly sister.

Yes, when the Prime SMW champ fights the Prime LHW champ He should be the favourite. However, we all know that this same LHW champ as avoided by all of the top fighters in the SMW division so had no choice to move up to LHW and it was only by chance that BHOP did not have another big name to fight that he got his shot. and this same LHW champ was the only one to clearly beat BHOP since RJJ.

You gotta love it when two GREAT fighters fight each other in their primes and not when one is shot to shit and they are both trying to cash out. It is clear that the one who wins this fight will have claimed the biggest scalp between 160 and 200lbs and for that they both deserve respect
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:45 PM   #42
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

@ 168, I'm sure he will too. . . @ 175, eh, not sure, but still think Ward would find a way to win.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:55 PM   #43
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classic boxrecian analysis from chief Boxrec scholar bailey. In fact, it's going to be a close fight as anyone who actually watches boxing can tell that Chad Dawson is a very, very good fighter who will present problems for Ward with his height, good jab, defense, and athletic ability.

And a boxrecian tidbit just for bailey: Dawson beat Hopkins better than Calzaghe did
Im surprised when youi think Hopkins was shot having his best wins that you would say Dawson beat him better when he didnt land as much or have Hopkins looking for time out and had a ref that wouldnt let Hopkins hold. Still Dawson lost to Pascal whom lost to Froch who lost to Kessler... You get the idea wimp
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:57 PM   #44
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

People are actually picking Dawson ? Wow.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:58 PM   #45
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Default Re: I think that Ward will easily beat Dawson. Easily.

The question is would Ward's punches cause the glass heart of Dawson to just give up?

If the answer is yes, then Ward wins.

However, I doubt Dawson can really fight effectively at 168.
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