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Manny Pacquiao 234 81.53%
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:45 PM   #106
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Obviously Pac, there are times when he doesn't even look like he knows how to box.

I remember watching Mayweather Corrales and thinking WOW this is the greatest fighter ever, then watching the Ndou fight and thinking there will never be another talent with this precision that doesnt at all rely on power, simply flawless perfect performances.

Pac was a fast sloppy crude guy with power - and fast sloppy crude guys don't jump two - three weight classes and do well, EVEN IF THE GUYS THEY ARE FIGHTING ARE COMPLETE COMPLETE BUMS.

Pac is the biggest overachiever ever.

I used to laugh at the idea of him on a pound for pound list, but the achievements speak for themselves.

When my friend said Diaz Pac reminded him of Floyd Gatti I was like how could that in a million years ever be close to true? But Pac started putting some flawless beat downs on great bigger fighters. Everything Floyd has done you could look at his first ten fights and say that he would do, because that talent is supernatural. If you watch Manny's early fights he DOESN'T KNOW how to box. But he's still winning.

Biggest overachiever EVER.
mayweather has a hot start early in his career so people are quite disappointed that he should have sustained it when he moved up to the higher weights. but he is slowly realizing that he needs to fight boxers taht would be beneficial to his legacy and the mosley and cotto fight does help even if both were late by a few years.

pac get's the benefit of being an unknown fighter but back in the philippines, he started actually as a hot prospect. he also became a world lineal champ at age 19 so there's already a hint that he might be special.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:48 PM   #107
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Why wouldn't we commit to grammar, you half wit?
of course we should be careful but not to be as paranoid that we have to proofread all our post in a forum before submitting them. my crime was making an error in "tense" and the tool is all over my nut like crazy.

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This is a one option thread, how original.....
so how come 20% are voting floyd?
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:11 PM   #108
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Pac hands down, this is a feel good question for Pac.

When Mayweather turned pro they said his upside was Leonard and his downside was Sweet Pea lol.

The expectations for Mayweather was extremely high. Which is why he could get a fight with someone like Genaro Hernandez the junior light weight lineal champ at the age of 20-21 in his 18th pro fight to win his first title. And then outclass him by a mile.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:55 PM   #109
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It's funny how you're calling them kids when you're the one with the grammar of an 8 year old.
Here's an example
so can you explain your floyd vote now grammar boy?
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:56 PM   #110
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Pac hands down, this is a feel good question for Pac.

When Mayweather turned pro they said his upside was Leonard and his downside was Sweet Pea lol.

The expectations for Mayweather was extremely high. Which is why he could get a fight with someone like Genaro Hernandez the junior light weight lineal champ at the age of 20-21 in his 18th pro fight to win his first title. And then outclass him by a mile.
This...
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:01 AM   #111
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Pac hands down, this is a feel good question for Pac.

When Mayweather turned pro they said his upside was Leonard and his downside was Sweet Pea lol.

The expectations for Mayweather was extremely high. Which is why he could get a fight with someone like Genaro Hernandez the junior light weight lineal champ at the age of 20-21 in his 18th pro fight to win his first title. And then outclass him by a mile.
Actually, the expectations from floyd has subsided at the higher weights. floyd gets alot of credit for mosley and cotto, while pac's win over the same opponents were deemed inferior.
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Ohhh a clean 82%!!!

People are going to be pissed!
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:41 AM   #113
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Pac of course, where do you think the steroids accusations were based from? Haha
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Manny Pacquiao is an underachiever. Even if you thought he was going to beat Oscar de la Hoya in 2008, nobody would have expected he would then beat Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Hatton, etc.

Floyd Mayweather is a great fighter, but you could probably say he achieved less than many expected.
What you've defined is an overachiever dummy.
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Ohhh a clean 82%!!!

People are going to be pissed!
The question is one which admits pac is less skilled and less talented than floyd

And because of this pac success has exceeded pactards expectation LMAO
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The question is one which admits pac is less skilled and less talented than floyd

And because of this pac success has exceeded pactards expectation LMAO
let's say that you are correct that pac is less skilled and less talented than floyd. but pac has accomplished more than floyd did. who have used better his talents and skills?
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let's say that you are correct that pac is less skilled and less talented than floyd. but pac has accomplished more than floyd did. who have used better his talents and skills?
You just handed him his ass.
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You just handed him his ass.
You need proper grammar to do that on a forum
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let's say that you are correct that pac is less skilled and less talented than floyd. but pac has accomplished more than floyd did. who have used better his talents and skills?
I know I am correct

Pac has not accomplished more than floyd did, only a guy looking at it with pactard eyes will suggest this.

It like saying pac has won more titles at different weight is achieving more. I can easily counter this and say floyd has never lost in any weightclass he has competed in, pac has lost at flyweight, super featherweight and some would go as far as saying he also lost at WW
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:24 AM   #120
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I know I am correct

Pac has not accomplished more than floyd did, only a guy looking at it with pactard eyes will suggest this.

It like saying pac has won more titles at different weight is achieving more. I can easily counter this and say floyd has never lost in any weightclass he has competed in, pac has lost at flyweight, super featherweight and some would go as far as saying he also lost at WW
that is terrible reasoning. so you are saying that floyd accomplished more than leonard and duran since he has not lost in any weight class that he fought while duran and leonard lost?

so you think that floyd has accomplished more than pac? if so, then by how much?
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