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Old 06-03-2012, 04:02 PM   #1
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Who are the most notable fighters in this respect...the fighters who were very effective outside of the textbook norm, or who often made unusual punchpicking choices

Joe Calzaghe is an obvious recent example.

Jones jr with his emphasis on left-hooking, often leaping in or thrown from odd angles.Largely dispensing with a jab.

Galindez and Azumah Nelson favouring of punching in bunches with very telegraphed wide powershots, when they were quite capable of throwing straighter and more precisely.

Marciano, Roldan, Mugabi, Moon....fighters who's offensive output mostly consisted of accurate clubbing bombs with all their bodyweight behind nearly every shot.

Jung-Koo Chang and Pryor for clubbing sloppy, odd angled volume punching.

Doug DeWitt and Marvin Johnson for really unusual combination punching choices.

Erik Morales and Chris Eubank for boxer-punchers that varied widely from fight to fight in terms of sharp textbook precision and pure slop.Or even from round to round.

Who else did you find to have unusual punching approaches?.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #2
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max baer has some of the worst technique found on film. very effective though
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definitely Vassiliy Jirov
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and George Foreman looked like he had cannons for fists as his arms could swing like windmills and he got amazing leverage
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:23 PM   #5
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Hamed

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Old 06-03-2012, 04:24 PM   #6
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Bazooka Limon deserves a mention. Renaldo Snipes was another guy although very good fighter does not apply.
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Saensak Muangsurin.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:07 PM   #8
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larry holmes in the 90's hits with the first knuckle.
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Who are the most notable fighters in this respect...the fighters who were very effective outside of the textbook norm, or who often made unusual punchpicking choices

Joe Calzaghe is an obvious recent example.

Jones jr with his emphasis on left-hooking, often leaping in or thrown from odd angles.Largely dispensing with a jab.

Galindez and Azumah Nelson favouring of punching in bunches with very telegraphed wide powershots, when they were quite capable of throwing straighter and more precisely.

Marciano, Roldan, Mugabi, Moon....fighters who's offensive output mostly consisted of accurate clubbing bombs with all their bodyweight behind nearly every shot.

Jung-Koo Chang and Pryor for clubbing sloppy, odd angled volume punching.

Doug DeWitt and Marvin Johnson for really unusual combination punching choices.

Erik Morales and Chris Eubank for boxer-punchers that varied widely from fight to fight in terms of sharp textbook precision and pure slop.Or even from round to round.

Who else did you find to have unusual punching approaches?.
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does tiger jack fox count as even good...his technique was apparently among the worst in history
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Canzoneri, McLarnin...IMO

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Old 06-03-2012, 06:13 PM   #12
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Tapia & Nelson
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:22 AM   #15
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Vitali Klitschko- one of the main reasons I do not understand why any hardcore boxing fans liken him so much to his brother. His whole game is based around heavy-handed arm punches breaking a guy down slowly, and he never has to commit enough to throw himself in a bad position to have to get out of punching range from, because it throws off his defensive game to do so. His brother is as orthodox as you can get.

Vic Darchinyan. Another flat-out weirdo. He stalks you like a drunken crab and the looks on some of his opponents faces when they anticipate what he's going to do, go to move out of the way or block and get hit anyway, realizing that he telegraphed completely false information, it's just priceless. Those are the best modern examples with Calzaghe, for me.

That's certainly unorthodox. I wouldn't call it lazy or sloppy for Vitali, so much as a by design, intended orthodoxy. Darchinyan, not lazy, sometimes crazy and sloppy, but always unorthodox, even at his most effective. Even flagging, late in his career against Agbeko, who controlled the majority of the fight, he was still landing wild shots. Shots Agbeko seemed to be anticipating, but again, like he telegraphs the wrong information.

A name to throw out is Mayorga, who did at least beat Forest. Nobody's great, but for a few matches I guess I'd have to call him very good, hate to say. Another guy that I like a lot who punches strangely is Glen Johnson. Weird trajectory on his jab and overhand right.


I don't know about the Pacquiao example. He throws weird combinations but his staple punches, the straight left and right hook, they're thrown in what looks like a pretty straight manner.
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