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Old 06-09-2012, 01:01 PM   #61
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Maybe the most overrated #1 WBC Bantamweight Challenger

CBS-TV boxing announcer Tim Ryan did state that; 'Kpalogo was a 'relative unknown',
but had won a 15-Round Decision over Sulley Shittu in January 1978.
That's how he became #1 contender. Shittu was #1 before that. The new African Boxing Union president who was also a WBC vice prez, was pushing for an African champ for a WBC title shot. That's how Shittu became #1.

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Rumor has it, that he wasn't even the 'best' 118 lb. Bantamweight in his home town of Lome, Togo.
He most definitely was. In fact, he was the only one.
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Boxbible,,,,,

John Mensan Kpalongo,,,,,

Not even the best 118 lb. Banatamweight in his neighborhood.

The Accra, Ghana newspaper reported, the Togo Bantamweight as having a
35-7-2 (11 KO) record when he 'upset' Sulley Shittu in '15-Rounds' in January 1978,
for the African Bantamweight Championsip.

Sulley Shittu had defeated John Kpalongo, '6' previous times.

Sulley, a one-time #1 WBC Bantamweight, was undefeated up to August 1977, when
he was 'upset' by Mexican Bantamweight,,,, Mario Castro 16-1-0 (11 KO's) by KO 5.

Spotty Ghana Newspaper reporting, has Sulley at 63-0-1 when entering the bout
with Mario Castro in August 1977. He most likely was still a Top 10 Bantamweight
when he lost to John Mensah Kpalongo in January 1978.
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:44 PM   #63
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A fighter whom I was following back in the day and thought he might make a stir was John Sichula of Zambia, but I think age finally caught up to him despite some fine wins. And, although he would never be described as one of the best, gotta take my hat off to Joe Tettah of Ghana who fought absolutely everybody who was anybody and always gave a great account of himself.

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I remember Joe Tetteh from when I was a kid. He was in the same stable as my dad and they used to spar regular. A real have gloves will travel pro who would fight anybody.
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I remember Joe Tetteh from when I was a kid. He was in the same stable as my dad and they used to spar regular. A real have gloves will travel pro who would fight anybody.
Al, back in the early '70s when I started reading everything on the sport, you could never pick up a magazine without seeing Joe's name in the results. Generally having lost but gone the distance with the local hotshot in the hotshot's hometown. And that was from everyone from 126 to 140. Outstanding fighter. I would have loved to have seen those sparring sessions, dude.
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:53 PM   #65
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Louis Pergaud.................Cameroon

Fought in Germany and France.

Generally, a pretty good boxer.
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Africa, has 'three regions'.

A) Northern Africa = Western Sahara, Morocco, Algeria, Libya and Egypt

B) Main Continent = General African Nations

C) South Africa

South Africa,,,,,,,,A country of its own, no way near the other 'main continent countries'.

C'mon,,,,,,,you can't be that stupid........
South Africa is never considered to be a different region.It's called Southern Africa which is South Africa,Botswana,Namibia,Zimbabwe.There are people who speak the same languages or related languages e.g Ndebele & Zulu,Tsonga/Shangani in Zimbabwe,South Africa,Mozambique.Sotho is spoken in Zimbabwe,South Africa and Lesotho then Venda and Shona have many similarities.Also there's a Rand Union (a monetary union in the region) then Rhodesia had to hold a referendum on whether to be part of South Africa or not.Also SOuth Africa is not an Island so you can never refer to it as separate from the 'main continent countries' whatever that means.
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That is a totally Eurocentric, almost ignorant view of the continent's countries. If you live in Africa, they split it into five regions:

Northern
: Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania

Eastern
: Sudan, Ethiopia, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Kenya, Tanzania, Seychelles, Reunion, Mauritius, Madagascar

Southern
: Zambia, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Lesotho, Swaziland, and South Africa

Western
: Senegal, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde

Central
: Congo, Dem Congo, Central African Rep, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Chad, Sao Tome

South Africa is very much tied in with Zimbabwe, Zambia, Botswana, Lesotho, and Namibia. Zimbabwe was apartheid only until the 80's

When it comes to sports, the only main division talked about is Northern and Sub-Saharan Africa. But they're still all African. Because Africa does not mean 'black'.

And besides, it stems from the old Roman name for Northern Africa 'Il Ifriqi' or something like that.
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Al, back in the early '70s when I started reading everything on the sport, you could never pick up a magazine without seeing Joe's name in the results. Generally having lost but gone the distance with the local hotshot in the hotshot's hometown. And that was from everyone from 126 to 140. Outstanding fighter. I would have loved to have seen those sparring sessions, dude.
Just been looking through his record, a real who's who of boxing and nearly all as the "opponent" and on the road.
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Old 06-09-2012, 03:00 PM   #69
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I said 'main continent' not 'mainland'.

If you feel South Africa is the same as Central Africa, so be it.

Geographical wise, all are on the same continent, but character wise,
I consider South Africa, a little more independent than, than lets say Sudan.
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And that can be said about any continent......
Italy is totally different than Finland. A greek is totally different than a swedish person in the things you mentioned Frank....but If we were discussing European fighters any italian or finnish or greek would fit the category......
A south african person is obviously african and fit the category of the thread.......
Thank you...

And if you take more than just a superficial look at the different cultures around Africa, you'll find that Sub-Saharan Africa has more cultural differences than between Northern and Southern Europe.

African drift within the continent has been going on about 100x longer than the rest of the world! As such, it has way more diversity. And if you compare things like body stature, cranial structure, and facial features, there is way more variety within the continent than the rest of the world combined. Paint the rest of the world the same color and the differences between a Caucasian and an Indian would be less than say a Ghanaian and a Somali.

A West African is easily recognized in East Africa. As is a Southerner in West Africa. And they would all feel way out of place culturally if they went and lived in another region.

Ok... Patrick Lumumba, Mustafa Wasajja, Chisanda Mutti, Louis Pergaud, Joe Lasisi
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Boxbible,,,,,

John Mensan Kpalongo,,,,,

Not even the best 118 lb. Banatamweight in his neighborhood.

The Accra, Ghana newspaper reported, the Togo Bantamweight as having a 35-7-2 (11 KO) record when he 'upset' Sulley Shittu in '15-Rounds' in January 1978,
for the African Bantamweight Championsip.

Sulley Shittu had defeated John Kpalongo, '6' previous times.

Sulley, a one-time #1 WBC Bantamweight, was undefeated up to August 1977, when he was 'upset' by Mexican Bantamweight,,,, Mario Castro 16-1-0 (11 KO's) by KO 5.

Spotty Ghana Newspaper reporting, has Sulley at 63-0-1 when entering the bout with Mario Castro in August 1977. He most likely was still a Top 10 Bantamweight when he lost to John Mensah Kpalongo in January 1978.
True, but the post said not even the best in Lome, Togo.
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I said 'main continent' not 'mainland'.

If you feel South Africa is the same as Central Africa, so be it.

Geographical wise, all are on the same continent, but character wise,
I consider South Africa, a little more independent than, than lets say Sudan.
Go and read up on some of their current president, Jacob Zuma's, antics and you might have a change of policy...
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Davidson Andeh..............Nigeria
Tapsola Tiga..................Togo

Vitalis B'bege.................Uganda

Vitalis B'bege, a murderous 'knock-out' atrist. Was regarded as the
pre-Olympic Tournament Event favorite, held in Montreal in November/December 1975.

Scored some 'frightening' Knock-outs there,
KO 1 over.....Nico Jeurissen (Holland)
KO 2 over.....Leo Pelletier (Canada)

Competed in the (-67 Kg) Welterweight Division.

Also won the 1974 African Championships (November 1974)

Had a record of something like 93-3 with 85 Knock-outs.

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Tap Tap...Tap Tap...Tap Tap...
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South African Only

Elijah 'Tap Tap' Makathani
Charlie 'Silver Assassin' Weir
Solomon 'Bushy' Bester
Gert Steyn

They could be listed as 'South African Light-Middleweight Flops',,,,,, at the World Championship level.

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