The reason Chisora loses BADLY to Haye

[luke]

Originally Posted by Geoffers

No he hasn't. Carl Thompson was a World Champion and if you think he's "lesser" than Del Boy then you need to get a sense of perspective.

Also, if you rewatch the Thompson-Haye fight you'll clearly see that Haye gassed after battering Thompson round the ring. Nobody would have complained if that had been stopped in the first round with a TKO win for Haye.

Thompson < Chisora ...

and you think chisora wouldnt be a world champion in a weak unwatched division like the cruiser weight one thompson was from? chisora is not even 20 fights into his career and you think he will never be a world champ, ive seen lesser fighters become an alphabet hw champion

[dftaylor]

Originally Posted by luke

and you think chisora wouldnt be a world champion in a weak unwatched division like the cruiser weight one thompson was from? chisora is not even 20 fights into his career and you think he will never be a world champ, ive seen lesser fighters become an alphabet hw champion

Where have all the mongs, like you, come from?

[matt007]

Originally Posted by luke

and you think chisora wouldnt be a world champion in a weak unwatched division like the cruiser weight one thompson was from? chisora is not even 20 fights into his career and you think he will never be a world champ, ive seen lesser fighters become an alphabet hw champion

Hahaha what a joke, so much rubbish LOL

Seeing you are bigging up delboy so much why dont we have a Man to Man bet without the bookies and go evens?

[Tony Bellew]

This fight is gonna be over when David wants it to be! People just need to realise there is a huge gulf in class! David is quicker stronger and far more explosive! The only attribute Del has over him is natural size and maybe durability but besides that I see see this as a 90/10 in David's favour I really do!

[matt007]

Originally Posted by Tony Bellew

This fight is gonna be over when David wants it to be! People just need to realise there is a huge gulf in class! David is quicker stronger and far more explosive! The only attribute Del has over him is natural size and maybe durability but besides that I see see this as a 90/10 in David's favour I really do!

Thank you tony some people are so full of know you what lol.

Btw are we going to see you in with cleverly? Or what is your plan.

[Primadonna Kool]

Originally Posted by matt007

Thank you tony some people are so full of know you what lol.

Btw are we going to see you in with cleverly? Or what is your plan.

People need to shut up about Bellew and Cleverly, they have already fought. Bellew should find his own road again, infact both guys should just fight other fighters. Cleverly should be looking to crack on at elite level, and Bellew should just carry on faces top Europeans and world ranked fighters, there are other belt holders and other titles.

I don't want to see a rematch just yet, Bellew should face afew yanks and blitz them, get around travel the world and enjoy life.

[matt007]

Originally Posted by Primadonna Kool

People need to shut up about Bellew and Cleverly, they have already fought. Bellew should find his own road again, infact both guys should just fight other fighters. Cleverly should be looking to crack on at elite level, and Bellew should just carry on faces top Europeans and world ranked fighters, there are other belt holders and other titles.

I don't want to see a rematch just yet, Bellew should face afew yanks and blitz them, get around travel the world and enjoy life.

I know they already fought, there are rumours going around that there could be another fight, so I'm asking the question of what his plans are. So maybe people need to shut up on what they want to see as the boxer himself and his team are the one who decide which direction they take.

[Primadonna Kool]

Originally Posted by matt007

I know they already fought, there are rumours going around that there could be another fight, so I'm asking the question of what his plans are. So maybe people need to shut up on what they want to see as the boxer himself and his team are the one who decide which direction they take.

Are you going to make me shut up..?

[Geoffers]

Originally Posted by luke

and you think chisora wouldnt be a world champion in a weak unwatched division like the cruiser weight one thompson was from? chisora is not even 20 fights into his career and you think he will never be a world champ, ive seen lesser fighters become an alphabet hw champion

No sir, What I think is that Carl Thompson was a better fighter than Del Chisora is. That's what I wrote, which you can clearly see if you get someone to read it to you. And I'll tell you something else, too... I reckon the Cat at his prime could take Del Boy. Carl could take a heavy shot, was fast enough that Del wouldn't land much, and in the meantime he would be outscoring Chisora for all 12 rounds.

Chisora might get a strap one day, but he isn't going to go through David Haye to get it.

[BUSTER]

haye is far more superior more talented all round.....so can chisora win? of course he can in the heavyweights it takes 1 big shot to end a fight which is why its so exciting to watch i personally dont like chisora i hope he gets a good beating then fades from boxing

[Klitman]

IMO Dels workrate will be the key if he has any chance of beating Haye.

Del can FIGHT for 12 rounds which could mean a problem for Haye in the latter rounds if he starts gassing. I think Del just has to keep putting it on Haye as often as he can in order to tire haye out. This means Del is going to take some serious punishment, but if he can ride through it until the second half of the fight then i think he stands a chance.

In all of Hayes winning fights as a heavy he has not had anyone constantly pressuring him for 12 rounds, and in general has fought at his own pace. My point is if haye does tire then del has a chance.

That aside i see the first 9 rounds going something like 7-2 in hayes favour, and then haye just spending the last 3 rounds avoiding dels telegraphs, and winning a decision

[suckeggs]

Originally Posted by Klitman

IMO Dels workrate will be the key if he has any chance of beating Haye.

Del can FIGHT for 12 rounds which could mean a problem for Haye in the latter rounds if he starts gassing. I think Del just has to keep putting it on Haye as often as he can in order to tire haye out. This means Del is going to take some serious punishment, but if he can ride through it until the second half of the fight then i think he stands a chance.

In all of Hayes winning fights as a heavy he has not had anyone constantly pressuring him for 12 rounds, and in general has fought at his own pace. My point is if haye does tire then del has a chance.

That aside i see the first 9 rounds going something like 7-2 in hayes favour, and then haye just spending the last 3 rounds avoiding dels telegraphs, and winning a decision

There's a very good reson for that. Because the other 2 skilless HW's that plod forward using ineffective pressure that Haye fought got stopped inside of 12.

Seriously i can't believe some people give Chisora a chance in this fight.

The TS is onto something with the styles and that it might be more of what Fury did rather than weight that made that fight so one sided but i don't think it was the inside fighting. Fury's feet and movement gave Chisora fits. He was getting turned in circles all night and couldn't keep up with Fury.
Haye will turn Chisora inside out and land big punches at will. I don't give a fuck how good Chisoras chin is... he is going to take a beating and i don't think he has the tools to dish one out against a fighter with the movement and speed of Haye.

Fuck. Vitali is old, slow, nothing but arm punches, had no left hand and can't move his feet and still won a clear points decision against Chisora. Now Chisora is about to fight a guy with very good timing, the fastest hands and feet in the division and he is going to win? fuck offfffffffff.

Chisora will struggle to get close because unlike Helenius and Vitali, Haye doesn't stand still. Even if Chisora does get close he will start swinging those wild hooks and Haye will slip all of them with his hands by his sides because Chisora is THAT slow... Please people stop basing your opinion of Chisora on how he did against a shot, 1 armed and immobile Vitali... that has no bearing on this fight

[JWP]

a lot of name calling and kiddie stuff on this thread mainly from the haye supporters, you have an opinion, great leave it at that, we dont know if your opinion is accurate until july 14th. seen it all before with burns/katsidis.

[Fellonblackdays]

What is this power people are associating with David Haye, did you see that supposed power right hand that Enzo Maccarinelli (Glassjaw master) took during their fight and still stood there? Chisora will be taking them all night long, then David will look for another excuse. Inb4Ibrokemyrighthand

[norfolkinchance]

a lot of shit being talked in this thread

haye is undoubtedly more talented but a lot of it is smoke and mirrors in my opinion.

and the biggest fallacy about haye is he is incredibly elusive and has great movement. he does, when he is out of range and cant counter back.

in range he gets hit a lot.

check out haye vs ruiz. ruiz was hitting him with jabs from round 2 onwards.