PAcquiao is finished!

[stiflers mum]

Originally Posted by IronKnee

I reckon it was a predetermined result and Pac was in on it too - hence him taking the last 3 rounds off.

Sets up a lucrative rematch, possibly even a trilogy, and locks Mayweather out of a big money showdown with either Manny and Bradley for at least a year.

I usually don't believe conspiracy theories but you may be onto something.
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Monday 11th June 2012, 2:26am
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BOXING promoter Bob Arum will look to make a November rematch between Manny Pacquiao and new WBO welterweight champion Timothy Bradley after admitting the latter’s split-decision win was “unbelievable”.
Two judges gave Bradley a 115-113 points victory despite many observers, Arum included, believing Pacquiao to be the clear winner, making a potential superfight with Floyd Mayweather even more unlikely and earning the promoter’s scathing criticism.
“Can you believe that? Unbelievable,” said Arum. “I’m going to make a lot of money on the rematch, but this [decision] was outrageous.”







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[Nazarene]

Originally Posted by CarltonBlues

Don't know what fight you guys were watching, Pacquiao slaughtered him.

toprank commentary was licking bradley's ass.

[buster007]

Originally Posted by PIPO23

He was always overrated in terms of skills. Now his athletic prowess ( power and speed) are no longer there. Manny's legs are gone as well. I thought it was a draw or a win for Manny. But I have no problem with the decision because Pacquiao looked like he was losing the last 3 rounds.It was looking like the Marquez fight.But in terms of techniques and skills Pacquiao is no elite.

He was missing and landing occasionally didn't go to the body as much was head hunting most of the time.Didn't cut the ring off. I hate to say it but he is nearly shot.

no no no no no!!!!!!!

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by kel

agree mate but Bradley maybe stole the 1st rd and possibly another rd before the 10rd........... even if we give him the last 3rds he still only wins 5rds at best.

Bradley was on queer street 2 or 3 times in that fight...... Pac was never hurt and landed more punches affectively.

I don't usually like referring to computerbox but the figures show a favouring towards PAC also

Since you've been around for so long you'd reckon you'd know by now that rounds are scored round by round. Pac couldn't land shit and got outpointed, plain and simple. Compubox numbers are meaningless, it's a dude pressing buttons and you could land 200 power punches in one round and nothing for the other 11 rounds while the other guy lands one punch each round beating you 11 rounds to 1. You landed 200 punches and the other guy landed 11. He won by winning more rounds.
Do you honestly believe that Pac landed 160 power punches or whatever compubox claimed? If you can't damage a guy with 160 power punches then you must be feather fisted. We all know Pac can punch. Compubox is bs, HBO are biased retards and Pacman got outboxed.
Congratulations to Bradley.

[BoppaZoo]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Since you've been around for so long you'd reckon you'd know by now that rounds are scored round by round. Pac couldn't land shit and got outpointed, plain and simple. Compubox numbers are meaningless, it's a dude pressing buttons and you could land 200 power punches in one round and nothing for the other 11 rounds while the other guy lands one punch each round beating you 11 rounds to 1. You landed 200 punches and the other guy landed 11. He won by winning more rounds.
Do you honestly believe that Pac landed 160 power punches or whatever compubox claimed? If you can't damage a guy with 160 power punches then you must be feather fisted. We all know Pac can punch. Compubox is bs, HBO are biased retards and Pacman got outboxed.
Congratulations to Bradley.

Compubox numbers are meaningless and i agree to a point but when they say 34% to 19% and 80 more Power Shots that is in Boxing terms a ****ing HUGE difference.

Hitting someone with lots of shots that miss or land on the gloves may look great in theory but they are not scoring shots.

80 more Power shots and the fact i recall Bradley being Hurt 3 times. I seen his knees buckle 3 times. I know these are not 10-8 rounds but they are clear 10-9 rounds.

I had the fight 115-113 and i was giving Bradley 2 of the close rounds. Most boxing experts and writers around the globe scored the fight 118-110 that is from guys that know a hell of alot more than yourself and myself.

Pac was hard done by. This has hurt boxing i feel.

Even Snoop Dogg who is a Huge boxing fan tweeted he is done with this Bullshit and is going to watch UFC.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by BoppaZoo

Compubox numbers are meaningless and i agree to a point but when they say 34% to 19% and 80 more Power Shots that is in Boxing terms a ****ing HUGE difference.

Hitting someone with lots of shots that miss or land on the gloves may look great in theory but they are not scoring shots.

80 more Power shots and the fact i recall Bradley being Hurt 3 times. I seen his knees buckle 3 times. I know these are not 10-8 rounds but they are clear 10-9 rounds.

I had the fight 115-113 and i was giving Bradley 2 of the close rounds. Most boxing experts and writers around the globe scored the fight 118-110 that is from guys that know a hell of alot more than yourself and myself.

Pac was hard done by. This has hurt boxing i feel.

Even Snoop Dogg who is a Huge boxing fan tweeted he is done with this Bullshit and is going to watch UFC.

Boxing judging is subjective, I've watched thousands of fights and I know as much about the game as anyone.
You said it yourself, missed shots might look great but they don't count. The crowd going wild and HBO bating over Pac doesn't mean his shots are scoring or hurting, Pac made Bradley look like Pernell Whitaker in there.
How many times have you watched the fight? I suggest you watch it again and watch closely to see if Pacs punches are actually scoring.
Keep in mind that jabs are scoring punches and so are punches to the body. If Bradley was known as a puncher and he didn't have such poor body language due to his injuries and being tired those punches wouldn't be disregarded and 'boxing fans' wouldn't be so outraged about the decision.

[tliang1000]

Actually i thought Pac looked good sat.

[kel]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Since you've been around for so long you'd reckon you'd know by now that rounds are scored round by round. Pac couldn't land shit and got outpointed, plain and simple. Compubox numbers are meaningless, it's a dude pressing buttons and you could land 200 power punches in one round and nothing for the other 11 rounds while the other guy lands one punch each round beating you 11 rounds to 1. You landed 200 punches and the other guy landed 11. He won by winning more rounds.
Do you honestly believe that Pac landed 160 power punches or whatever compubox claimed? If you can't damage a guy with 160 power punches then you must be feather fisted. We all know Pac can punch. Compubox is bs, HBO are biased retards and Pacman got outboxed.
Congratulations to Bradley.

Where did i say i was relying solely on compubox to sum up my opinion and scoring on this fight..... What i said is that i could not give Bradley anymore than 5rds at best (and obviously one of the judges agreed). I referred to compubox after scoring the fight and used it to highlight my original thoughts on who won the fight.

Of course no one relies on compubox to score a fight.... we all know it can be meaningless, nonetheless after scoring the fight heavily in favour of Pac i just used the compubox to strengthen my case.... that's all

[StiffJab]

Originally Posted by tliang1000

Actually i thought Pac looked good sat.

Agree, he was still fast as hell and his combo's were accurate. Dont know how they could have scored it for Timmy

[swilson120]

I backed the draw at $31 mainly due to potential headbutts etc
I got a bit excited there when they read the first scorecard

[whipsy]

Originally Posted by Nazarene

toprank commentary was licking bradley's ass.

I watched teh toprank broadcast live and later watched it with HBO commentary.. HBO had Bradley winning 1 round.... those wankers need to find work in some other field

[perko]

1 round for bradley , **** the last 3 rounds were clear cut for bradley.

[whipsy]

Originally Posted by perko

1 round for bradley , **** the last 3 rounds were clear cut for bradley.

Listening to the commentary was making me ill, That Harold Ledderman is an old gronked out ****wit who couldn't score a fight to save his life.

[BoppaZoo]

Look im a huge Pac fan.

But even i with my unbiased view when i watched had the fight 115-113.PAC

But having said that there were 2 close rounds that i gave Bradley.
But having more statistics in now and having rewatched the fight i can see why most writers and fans are saying.

Most Bradleys shots hit Pacquiao on the Gloves and last time i checked these in a round are NON SCORING SHOTS.

But when you have 2 Seventy year old Judges it looks awesome when Bradley is swinging away.

But like i have said i feel that the Sport Judges now are rewarding fighters for output but not for scoring shots.
I.e Pac vs JMM
Now they have done it for Bradley vs Pac.

I believe this is hurting our sport.
I also believe in what Steven A Smith said that the Federal Government needs to take over behind the scenes of Boxing for Fans to get the best for OUR SPORT.

[kel]

Originally Posted by BoppaZoo

Look im a huge Pac fan.

But even i with my unbiased view when i watched had the fight 115-113.PAC

But having said that there were 2 close rounds that i gave Bradley.
But having more statistics in now and having rewatched the fight i can see why most writers and fans are saying.

Most Bradleys shots hit Pacquiao on the Gloves and last time i checked these in a round are NON SCORING SHOTS.

But when you have 2 Seventy year old Judges it looks awesome when Bradley is swinging away.

But like i have said i feel that the Sport Judges now are rewarding fighters for output but not for scoring shots.
I.e Pac vs JMM
Now they have done it for Bradley vs Pac.

I believe this is hurting our sport.
I also believe in what Steven A Smith said that the Federal Government needs to take over behind the scenes of Boxing for Fans to get the best for OUR SPORT.

Were 2 of the judges 70yrs old????