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Old 06-11-2012, 11:09 AM   #46
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You are correct...which is why I did not pay for this bout.....and won't buy ppv.s
if you check my vcash and my rummys picks i picked tim bradley to win on both

i knew this ****ed up shit was gonna happen boxing just keeps sinking deeper and deeper into scripted material

it's almost like they have gimmicks now the PED thing the manny going christian the floyd going to jail saga

it's ridiculous the boxing has taken a back seat to the drama
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:11 AM   #47
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Naturally all the bros thought he won. Put your pride in the back seat and face reality man.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:14 AM   #48
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There is clearly an agenda here.

If you are a Floyd fan then you can find 7 close rounds to score to Bradley.

In reality he won 3 rounds maximum.
the truth. These guys spewing out these threads and posts are clearly not general fans of boxing. They have either grown too attached to one fighter (e.g. Floyd) , have grown to really dislike another (i.e. Pacquiao) or both and that has clearly clouded their judgment.

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Round 1

No one is doing a bunch of anything this round, Bradley's pitter-patter jab stays in Manny's face almost the entire round, 10-9 Bradley as two or three solid punches does not earn you a round.

Round 2

Pausing round 2 briefly, can already see how people are going to use the compubox numbers against Bradley, he's throwing the left jab out to keep Manny at bay. Unpausing.
Had Manny backing up most of the round, towards the end of the round, dropped his gloves and let Manny swing on him, missing virtually all of the swings. 20-18 Bradley

Round 3

Pausing round 3 briefly. Bradley is out Mannying Manny, basically just throwing punches out there. Making Manny pick his spots. Unpausing.
Pacquiao finally woke up and if I have to give anyone this round, it'd be him. 29-28 Bradley. Pacquiao did more, but a lot of these punches are missing from him.
The thing that is surprising me thus far. Manny is not walking through these punches. Bradley has paltry KO numbers, but Manny is backpedaling most thus far in this fight

Round 4
Harold Lederman's care has just flashed on the screen. 30-27 is just wrong. I could just hear lampley going crazy of whatever manny is doing now.I have sound on mute. I don't know what fight he is watching thus far.
So far on the official score cards, all three have Manny 29-28

Pausing, this is some sloppy ass boxing from both fighters, unpausing
Manny thinks he's found something with a left uppercut as he's gone to it a few times, yet is hitting air
Bradley is still, for the most part, in Manny's face.
Last minute of the round wins it for Pacquiao as he finally starts to let the hands go and was quicker to the punch, lol. Most explosive punches and combos were landed by him and made Bradley stumble and lose his footing
38-38

Round 5

LMFAO with this biased HBO feed. They make it seem like Bradley was there for target practice. Every ****ing round has Manny clips. HAHAHAHA
Admittedly, round 4 was the clearest round thus far by any fighter.
Pausing. Bradley starts off the round with ring generalship, controlling the middle of the round. He's done this every one. Judges look at this as one barometer for who is in control. Only when someone has made a name for themselves on defense like a Floyd or a Pernell, will judges not hold this against you. Unpausing
Pausing. Finally with two minutes left in the round, does Manny choose to stalk Bradley as Bradley is backpedalling, Unpausing.
Pausing, he's doing a decent job staying out of the way of Manny's straight left. Most are just grazing his head. Still counts as a power shot on Compubox though. Also, Bradley is flickering his jab out, but seems less frequent.Unpausing
I have no idea why Bradley decided he wanted to start brawling here as Manny again stumbled Bradley.
48-47 Pacquiao

Round 6

Thoughts thus far. Neither is landing a lot clean. Manny has won his rounds based on this cleaner punches though while Bradley has won on pure aggression by staying in Manny's face and peppering him with jabs, just basically being more active. If I know Jim Lampley as well as I think I do, he has people thinking this is a whitewash thus far, when it clearly is not, however, at this point, Manny is ahead of my card
Pausing. Manny came ouf of the corner first, but then resumed his role of letting Bradley throw weak jabs at him for the first part of virtually every round. Basically what Manny did to Clottey all fight, Unpausing
At the 2:20 mark, Manny takes role of aggressor, then reverts back to throwing his arms up to guard.
I feel that they both did roughly the same and this is my first toss-up round, but I think I need to give this to Pacquaio but of the stuff that was happening in the corner and Manny let loose for a bit. These are by no means clean shots that either are really throwing though.
58-56 Pacquiao

Round 7

More of the ****ery from HBO on round 6, however, that stuff in the corner was worth showing.
At this point in time, the three judges has it 59-56, 58-56, 58-56, all in favor of Pacquiao
Pausing, midway point of round, both are swing wild for the fences. Manny is controlling ring now Unpausing
Pausing, as 27 punches to Pacquaio vs 9 to Bradley just flashed, that is bull ****ing shit. Much closer, but Manny won this round.
68-65 Pacquiao

Round 8

Thoughts so far. Bradley is backing up, but he's not laying any traps. Manny moves forward in a straight line, not cutting off of the ring at any point of this fight. Bradley looks like he's trying to control distance and box. Good idea, he's lost five rounds in a row on my card
Pretty lackluster round but it was a Bradley round. Interestingly enough. Jinkee Pacquiao was jumping up and down eariler. There is a look of concern on her face now.
77-75 Pacquaio

Round 9

Thoughts as the minute between rounds passes. These numbers are bogus from compubox. I feel that they are when Floyd fights and they are in this fight.
80-72 Pacquiao by Lederman SMDH
Pausing. Manny is doing a lot of smiling, but he's not doing a lot of throwing punches. Bradley still tossing that weak left jab out there. However, it shows that Bradley has Manny's timing down as his left has been shut down. Unpausing.
By the middle of the round, I thought Manny sealed this with a bow, then Bradley came back with some stuff of his own. Do I give the round for harder punching or for more agression and weaker punches. Can' t decide, round is a draw
87-85 Manny

Round 10

So far on official score cards, 88-83 Manny, 86-85 Manny, 85-86 Bradley
Pausing, finally seeing Bradley's jab slip through the guard of Manny consistently. Unpausing
Pausing, Bradley fully back to boxing it seems, he's controlling where the fight is going now. Manny is still following in straight line. Unpausing
Manny wakes up in like the last 15 seconds of the round. This is Bradley's clearest round yet. Punching (wide) off of ref separations, outpunching in the few clinches and controlling the action.
96-95 Manny

Round 11
Thoughts between rounds, more Manny highlight stuff. I mean, is HBO trying to pitch Manny gear here? Bradley, while not as flashy, as done some good things thus far. Geez
Lederman finally gives Bradley a round, lol. As I stated, that was a clear Bradley round. All three official score cards show that as well
Pausing, neither has been in any real danger, Manny seems content to let Tim throw jabs all day. Whenever Bradley has been able to slow down the workrate of Manny, he's made him look like a club fighter, like he did in round 10 and so far, this has the makings of the same thing. Unpausing.
Pausing, Bradley is turning Manny at will, (weak) left jab to the face, rinse and repeat, Unpausing.
Ring generalship and the left jab won it for Bradley
105-105 - Tie

Round 12
Thoughts so far, boring fight. Jinkee sit emotionless. So does Tim's wife
Pausing. Pitty-Pat left jab, pitty-pat left jab, zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Unpausing
Pausing. I don't know why Tim decided to get froggy and scrap with Manny again. That's how he gave up all those middle rounds. Unpausing.
Round was a draw.

Fight was 115-115

I can see the fight going either way, depending on how you judge scoring.
Lackluster fight. You know who beats either with ease on their best day.

So, robbery, this was not.

If Pacquaio hadn't decided to take off the first half of virtually every round and basically the second half of the fight off, he would have won going away. However, he didn't. Do you award the guy that is hitting harder in exchanges for 15-20 seconds a round or do you give it to the boxer that is more engaging? I choose the latter. This was actually a poor showing from both boxers. I know that Bradley wasn't hurting him but outside of a few that stumbled Bradley, he wasn't hurt either. He was never 'rocked.'
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:17 AM   #50
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C'mon... I'm a big Bradley supporter, but you have to be a bit touched in the head to think that Bradley did anything to warrant winning that fight. Manny didn't look anything like he used to. He is learning the Oscar De La Hoya lesson of how it's impossible to stay at your peak while being a part time boxer. However, he still won that fight easy. Bradley just didn't do enough... nowhere near enough.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:33 AM   #51
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I don't think Pac should've lost BUT the clowns saying he schooled Bradley and won 10-12 rounds are full of shit, it was a close fight, I had it 7-5 for Pac, he did NOT win this going away by big margin.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:36 AM   #52
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Quite frankly,

The fight wasn't a robbery and Bradley handled Manny very clearly for the vast majority of the fight. Manny thought he could rally late and try to steal rounds but a lot of people saw through that, thankfully the judges as well, and they didn't reward Manny for flurrying and landing nothing.

Bradley put on a clinic and next time it will be even worse for Manny.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:40 AM   #53
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I thought he won the 2,7,10,11,12 relatively clear, then there were plenty of close rounds (1,5,8 for example) in which Bradley did enough to win the round. I think there was a lot of overselling Manny's work, if you dispute that I'd ask when was Bradley hurt...how did he not have any real facial damage? It's not that facial damage is that huge of a factor outside of the fact that when Manny lands as much as HBO tried to make out, guys faces gets marked up, guys get hurt. I remember Manny going on a wild flurry at the end of maybe the 4th round in which 1 or 2 punches landed, and Lampley made a comment that 16 punches landed? It was a great fight, and Bradley deserves a lot of credit.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:42 AM   #54
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Round 1

No one is doing a bunch of anything this round, Bradley's pitter-patter jab stays in Manny's face almost the entire round, 10-9 Bradley as two or three solid punches does not earn you a round.

Round 2

Pausing round 2 briefly, can already see how people are going to use the compubox numbers against Bradley, he's throwing the left jab out to keep Manny at bay. Unpausing.
Had Manny backing up most of the round, towards the end of the round, dropped his gloves and let Manny swing on him, missing virtually all of the swings. 20-18 Bradley

Round 3

Pausing round 3 briefly. Bradley is out Mannying Manny, basically just throwing punches out there. Making Manny pick his spots. Unpausing.
Pacquiao finally woke up and if I have to give anyone this round, it'd be him. 29-28 Bradley. Pacquiao did more, but a lot of these punches are missing from him.
The thing that is surprising me thus far. Manny is not walking through these punches. Bradley has paltry KO numbers, but Manny is backpedaling most thus far in this fight

Round 4
Harold Lederman's care has just flashed on the screen. 30-27 is just wrong. I could just hear lampley going crazy of whatever manny is doing now.I have sound on mute. I don't know what fight he is watching thus far.
So far on the official score cards, all three have Manny 29-28

Pausing, this is some sloppy ass boxing from both fighters, unpausing
Manny thinks he's found something with a left uppercut as he's gone to it a few times, yet is hitting air
Bradley is still, for the most part, in Manny's face.
Last minute of the round wins it for Pacquiao as he finally starts to let the hands go and was quicker to the punch, lol. Most explosive punches and combos were landed by him and made Bradley stumble and lose his footing
38-38

Round 5

LMFAO with this biased HBO feed. They make it seem like Bradley was there for target practice. Every ****ing round has Manny clips. HAHAHAHA
Admittedly, round 4 was the clearest round thus far by any fighter.
Pausing. Bradley starts off the round with ring generalship, controlling the middle of the round. He's done this every one. Judges look at this as one barometer for who is in control. Only when someone has made a name for themselves on defense like a Floyd or a Pernell, will judges not hold this against you. Unpausing
Pausing. Finally with two minutes left in the round, does Manny choose to stalk Bradley as Bradley is backpedalling, Unpausing.
Pausing, he's doing a decent job staying out of the way of Manny's straight left. Most are just grazing his head. Still counts as a power shot on Compubox though. Also, Bradley is flickering his jab out, but seems less frequent.Unpausing
I have no idea why Bradley decided he wanted to start brawling here as Manny again stumbled Bradley.
48-47 Pacquiao

Round 6

Thoughts thus far. Neither is landing a lot clean. Manny has won his rounds based on this cleaner punches though while Bradley has won on pure aggression by staying in Manny's face and peppering him with jabs, just basically being more active. If I know Jim Lampley as well as I think I do, he has people thinking this is a whitewash thus far, when it clearly is not, however, at this point, Manny is ahead of my card
Pausing. Manny came ouf of the corner first, but then resumed his role of letting Bradley throw weak jabs at him for the first part of virtually every round. Basically what Manny did to Clottey all fight, Unpausing
At the 2:20 mark, Manny takes role of aggressor, then reverts back to throwing his arms up to guard.
I feel that they both did roughly the same and this is my first toss-up round, but I think I need to give this to Pacquaio but of the stuff that was happening in the corner and Manny let loose for a bit. These are by no means clean shots that either are really throwing though.
58-56 Pacquiao

Round 7

More of the ****ery from HBO on round 6, however, that stuff in the corner was worth showing.
At this point in time, the three judges has it 59-56, 58-56, 58-56, all in favor of Pacquiao
Pausing, midway point of round, both are swing wild for the fences. Manny is controlling ring now Unpausing
Pausing, as 27 punches to Pacquaio vs 9 to Bradley just flashed, that is bull ****ing shit. Much closer, but Manny won this round.
68-65 Pacquiao

Round 8

Thoughts so far. Bradley is backing up, but he's not laying any traps. Manny moves forward in a straight line, not cutting off of the ring at any point of this fight. Bradley looks like he's trying to control distance and box. Good idea, he's lost five rounds in a row on my card
Pretty lackluster round but it was a Bradley round. Interestingly enough. Jinkee Pacquiao was jumping up and down eariler. There is a look of concern on her face now.
77-75 Pacquaio

Round 9

Thoughts as the minute between rounds passes. These numbers are bogus from compubox. I feel that they are when Floyd fights and they are in this fight.
80-72 Pacquiao by Lederman SMDH
Pausing. Manny is doing a lot of smiling, but he's not doing a lot of throwing punches. Bradley still tossing that weak left jab out there. However, it shows that Bradley has Manny's timing down as his left has been shut down. Unpausing.
By the middle of the round, I thought Manny sealed this with a bow, then Bradley came back with some stuff of his own. Do I give the round for harder punching or for more agression and weaker punches. Can' t decide, round is a draw
87-85 Manny

Round 10

So far on official score cards, 88-83 Manny, 86-85 Manny, 85-86 Bradley
Pausing, finally seeing Bradley's jab slip through the guard of Manny consistently. Unpausing
Pausing, Bradley fully back to boxing it seems, he's controlling where the fight is going now. Manny is still following in straight line. Unpausing
Manny wakes up in like the last 15 seconds of the round. This is Bradley's clearest round yet. Punching (wide) off of ref separations, outpunching in the few clinches and controlling the action.
96-95 Manny

Round 11
Thoughts between rounds, more Manny highlight stuff. I mean, is HBO trying to pitch Manny gear here? Bradley, while not as flashy, as done some good things thus far. Geez
Lederman finally gives Bradley a round, lol. As I stated, that was a clear Bradley round. All three official score cards show that as well
Pausing, neither has been in any real danger, Manny seems content to let Tim throw jabs all day. Whenever Bradley has been able to slow down the workrate of Manny, he's made him look like a club fighter, like he did in round 10 and so far, this has the makings of the same thing. Unpausing.
Pausing, Bradley is turning Manny at will, (weak) left jab to the face, rinse and repeat, Unpausing.
Ring generalship and the left jab won it for Bradley
105-105 - Tie

Round 12
Thoughts so far, boring fight. Jinkee sit emotionless. So does Tim's wife
Pausing. Pitty-Pat left jab, pitty-pat left jab, zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Unpausing
Pausing. I don't know why Tim decided to get froggy and scrap with Manny again. That's how he gave up all those middle rounds. Unpausing.
Round was a draw.

Fight was 115-115

I can see the fight going either way, depending on how you judge scoring.
Lackluster fight. You know who beats either with ease on their best day.

So, robbery, this was not.

If Pacquaio hadn't decided to take off the first half of virtually every round and basically the second half of the fight off, he would have won going away. However, he didn't. Do you award the guy that is hitting harder in exchanges for 15-20 seconds a round or do you give it to the boxer that is more engaging? I choose the latter. This was actually a poor showing from both boxers. I know that Bradley wasn't hurting him but outside of a few that stumbled Bradley, he wasn't hurt either. He was never 'rocked.'

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Old 06-11-2012, 11:52 AM   #55
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Lol, Bradley won 3 rounds at best, anyone who thought he clearly won need to get there head check , on the other hand im very glad they robbed Pacquiao just for the fun to give this pactards a hard time.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:10 PM   #56
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HBOs horribly biased commentary and Ledderman's terrible scoring lead a lot of people into thinking that Pac had his way with Bradley which is simply not the case. This was a much closer fight when you sit down and put aside the bullshit.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:13 PM   #57
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Maybe JUST maybe it's about skin colour you dumb ****.
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When ever Bradley would land combos the HBO dick riders would get quite, it was a ****ing disgrace and while I don't think Bradley did enough to win, Pac didn't win every ****ing minute of the fight like HBO said furthermore there were ALOT of close rounds, And Bradley was busier, We've seen similar fights, but HBO calls it depending on who their boy is, For example, Alexander vs Kotelnic, was very similar to this fight, And HBO sucked Alexander's dick for being busier cause he was their boy.
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supported by a user named floyd g.o.a.t a user with floyd in his avatar and sig and reppin501

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Reppin 501 is actually a white boy that sucks off every black fighter! He's backwards, pay no attention to him... I heard in Arkansas, they let the sheep lick PB off their balls!
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When ever Bradley would land combos the HBO dick riders would get quite, it was a ****ing disgrace and while I don't think Bradley did enough to win, Pac didn't win every ****ing minute of the fight like HBO said furthermore there were ALOT of close rounds, And Bradley was busier, We've seen similar fights, but HBO calls it depending on who their boy is, For example, Alexander vs Kotelnic, was very similar to this fight, And HBO sucked Alexander's dick for being busier cause he was their boy.
You watched and you had your Bradley goggles on... Tim got his ass whooped.. Won like 2 rounds and was out classed! The decision was a joke and very corrupt! Bob Arum is bad for the sport.. He deserves to be tortured and raped! Harsh words I know but
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