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Old 06-12-2012, 01:04 AM   #16
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yeah, people said he had no inside game. he showed some saturday nite
it's like the "pac has no right hand" thing pre-velazquez/pre-morales 2.

pac has a mean right hand before roach.

that weird cross/hook/overhand hybrid right he throws he had before roach.

it's just they didn't see it much. pre-roach pac threw the right like crazy.


pac was too wild and getting caught with punches he doesn't see.

so roach adopted the KISS principle.

1-2 , 1-2 , right jab , left cross.

very simple and with pac's speed and stamina and power , quite effective.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:07 AM   #17
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How I see it is emmanuel's "boxing" skills come out if he can make his opponent perform like a brawler

If someone is "boxing" him, then he's not very good at "boxing" with them
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:07 AM   #18
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Manny looked like he aged a bit. He can't throw 1200punches a fight now and either Bradley has a granite chin or Manny has lost some power as well. He wasn't able to land a trademark KD on JMM and he could'nt KD Bradley with flush left hands. If I was a Pac fan I would be scared.
bradley was moving too much.

punch output is dependent on punch opportunity.

it's like shooting in basketball.

the amount of shots you can take depends on the guy guarding you.


a guy who just stands there like clottey , pac will throw a lot. guys who move around pac can't throw.


but yeah he did look gassed last night. not proper training? or age? we'll have to wait to see in the rematch.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:10 AM   #19
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How I see it is emmanuel's "boxing" skills come out if he can make his opponent perform like a brawler

If someone is "boxing" him, then he's not very good at "boxing" with them
makes sense.

pac is not a natural boxer.

he's a natural brawler/slugger.

roach turned him into a boxer puncher.

boxer punchers can always outbox slower or less skilled guys.... but they get eaten up by real boxers usually who are more technical.

i like to compare it to tito.

you a brawler or slow and tito will eat you up.

but a more technical opponent like hopkins? delahoya? tito can't do his usual box-punch with them.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:14 AM   #20
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His skills at missing shots, plodding along with slow feet, having no ring iq and throwing wild flurries with 30 seconds left in each round while smiling at the HBO commentators was very impressive.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:14 AM   #21
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makes sense.

pac is not a natural boxer.

he's a natural brawler/slugger.

roach turned him into a boxer puncher.

boxer punchers can always outbox slower or less skilled guys.... but they get eaten up by real boxers usually who are more technical.

i like to compare it to tito.

you a brawler or slow and tito will eat you up.

but a more technical opponent like hopkins? delahoya? tito can't do his usual box-punch with them.
great post. I used to think you were here to troll exclusively, which you aren't bad at
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:18 AM   #22
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He has no defense
He has no Jab
He has no body punch
He has no uppercut
He has no inside game
Just has fast hands and a good straight left, pretty much nothing more than a head hunter.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:19 AM   #23
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great post. I used to think you were here to troll exclusively, which you aren't bad at
i troll troll posts.

you talk boxing , i talk boxing.


what pac needs to learn is to be a swarmer against those who try to box.

not to box them back but roach doesn't make that adjustment. he needs to because pac usually just sticks to roach's gameplan. he makes litttle adjustments himself. what roach works on him to do is what he usually does.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:20 AM   #24
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He has no defense
He has no Jab
He has no body punch
He has no uppercut

Just has fast hands and a good straight left, pretty much nothing more than a head hunter.
he has a good bodypunch and uppercut.

he just doesn't use them enough.

his defense is okay for the kind of guy he is. he ain't no floyd or sweet pea.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:24 AM   #25
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he has a good bodypunch and uppercut.

he just doesn't use them enough.

his defense is okay for the kind of guy he is. he ain't no floyd or sweet pea.
The reason why he doesn't use it enough is because he's doesn't know how to.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:26 AM   #26
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he looked extra slow to me
you were drunk that night, that's fine.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:27 AM   #27
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The reason why he doesn't use it enough is because he never learned.
nonsense.

ask cotto if he has no uppercut. he dropped cotto with an uppercut.

ask margarito if he has no body punch. he almost dropped marg with a body punch. that's big , filled out guy to hurt to the body.


he just headhunts because well..... all fighters like him headhunt.

guys with pop gets happy punching to the head because they get too eager for a knockdown or ko.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:29 AM   #28
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you were drunk that night, that's fine.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:30 AM   #29
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He has no defense
He has no Jab
He has no body punch
He has no uppercut
He has no inside game
Just has fast hands and a good straight left, pretty much nothing more than a head hunter.
You are in the wrong thread. Jones was KTFO by Bailey, not SD bradley.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:32 AM   #30
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No!!! Manny was having Trouble cutting off the ring
Manny is Still A Brawler..All he ever will be He is a Great Brawler Tho...
But his Ring I.Q is not ATG....
You can Circle and Jab him all Day!!!
Case and Point Notice when his Opponents start moving around the Ring..Manny gets Frustrated (Hitting his Gloves together)and telling him to come hit him and Fight????
And Great Boxer would know how to cut the Ring off and get to his Opponent!!
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