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Old 06-12-2012, 02:23 AM   #46
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Everytime he boxed with Bradley in the center of the ring Pacquiao was made to look like a complete amateur.

The boxing portion of the fight largely took place in rds. 10-12 and before that the 1st 4 rds prior to Bradley's injury, and in the predominant portions of those rds. Pacquiao was getting lopsidedly routed.

This fight appeared to be alot wider for Pacquiao because of the vast difference in POWER between the 2 fighters. Not due to Pac's grand boxing repertoire. Because he was getting outboxed pretty badly for long stretches in this fight.

I forsee a WIDE UD for Bradley in a rematch (if Pacquiao is stupid enough to take one) after he applies the strategy he utilized in rds 10-12 for the FULL 12 while this time having the utilization of 2 working feet.
If anything showed in that fight after the first 6 round Bradley was not on Pacs level. After the first 6 round Pac was just playing with Bradley. Pac was laughing at his punches and when Pac bring the fight to Bradley he was on queer street, wooble like he is going to quit.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:44 AM   #47
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:46 AM   #48
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bradley was moving too much.

punch output is dependent on punch opportunity.

it's like shooting in basketball.

the amount of shots you can take depends on the guy guarding you.


a guy who just stands there like clottey , pac will throw a lot. guys who move around pac can't throw.


but yeah he did look gassed last night. not proper training? or age? we'll have to wait to see in the rematch.

good post! great analogy
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:49 AM   #49
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This PAC ****ing sucked .
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:51 AM   #50
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Pacquio has been great. He may have gotten slow, but he is in his 30's, old for divisions under 160. He is still one of most skilled, and was better man in ring last saturday.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:51 AM   #51
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He stutter steps to much and he is always off with his body position. Trainers across the world see this, not sure how you don't.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:52 AM   #52
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LMFAO, Pac looked technically garbage with Bradley and Marquez and Mosley. His style is to just hit you no matter how sloppy it is.

Watch Floyd fight...now go watch Manny. Floyd stays true to the definition of boxing while Manny is very wild.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:54 AM   #53
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What the **** are people watching.

Manny has slowed considerably.

Manny has never looked spectacular on the frontfoot. However when an opponent comes straight forward like Hatton did and like Cotto did he would be on his toes, moving fluidly, pivoting and throwing wicked accurate combinations. His legs aren't there, the volume isn't there, the coordination isn't there. Even the upper body movement isn't there. Bradley in the early going moved straight forward in a linear fashion and never showed these old qualities like he use to. You can go on about Pacquaio always struggling with movers however Bradley did not fight that way in the early going and the 'old' pacquaio was nowhere to be seen.

Pacquaio has needed that perpetual movement on his toes in a rhythm to be successful at higher weights. It's nowhere to be seen. He simply can't cover distance like he used to and thus he struggles to move into the killzone and land as cleanly as he used to.

Anyone that thinks he looked just as good as he use to doesn't know what they are watching. Floyd can slow and it's not as significant because he has the technical profficiency to stand in the pocket and efficiently land. Pacquaio doesn't have the same pure boxing skills and had a dynamic, high intensity, offensive attack that was overwhelming. He simply isn't the same fighter.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:55 AM   #54
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LMFAO, Pac looked technically garbage with Bradley and Marquez and Mosley. His style is to just hit you no matter how sloppy it is.

Watch Floyd fight...now go watch Manny. Floyd stays true to the definition of boxing while Manny is very wild.
does he have an amatuer hook too sdsfinest?
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:06 AM   #55
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Perhaps a bit slow, but he looked like he was fighting smart. I was impressed with the way he anticipated, slipped, and blocked counters, set up lead foot positioning, adjusted his left hand to go lower once Bradley started dipping, stepping right to cut off the ring when Tim circled instead of always following him, jabbing under Bradley's jab, landing his left to counter the jab, and both of the aforementioned making Bradley's favorite punch, the overhand-right, a no-show.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:25 AM   #56
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LMFAO, Pac looked technically garbage with Bradley and Marquez and Mosley. His style is to just hit you no matter how sloppy it is.

Watch Floyd fight...now go watch Manny. Floyd stays true to the definition of boxing while Manny is very wild.
Great post
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:35 AM   #57
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Pac has had pretty good defense since the cotto fight. While he got busted up in that, he showed he had improved, and now he doesnt get hit very cleanly that much, UNLESS he is fighting a sharp counter puncher with speed and timing like Marquez. Even though Marquez won the 3rd fight, Pac had really tight defense in that fight. It just shows how great Marquez is, that he was able to land pretty much the biggest shots of the fight. but pacs defense is pretty good.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:49 AM   #58
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Nah that looked like a 50% pac. He's slowed down a lot. He needs to retire by the end of the year. There was some vintage Pacquiao moments in the fight though.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:47 AM   #59
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Has NO ONE realized the OP was trolling?


- The man pulled in a LOT of fish !
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:49 AM   #60
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does he have an amatuer hook too sdsfinest?
he doesn't throw it properly a lot. technique wise.


but i tell you what..... i'd rather get hit by other people's technically proper stuff than pac's weird sloppy stuff.

pac throws punches funny. yes his straight left is beautiful most of the time but he throws it funky a lot too. not a proper cross or overhand.

like the hatton ko left. he started cranking it up like he was throwing an overhand low and then it ended up a hook coming up like an uppercut.

weird stuff.

but part of why he's a beast. not only he got speed and power his punches are unpredictable.

people wanna nitpick and say his bad technique shows he's not good.

i think it's part of what makes him great.
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