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Ottke 4 40.00%
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:18 PM   #16
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Ward could stop fighting today and he would already be considered greater than Ottke. Make a poll. Ottke is a laughingstock the butt end of jokes he was a ducker who would have been schooled by Froch, Ward, Kessler and Dawson.
why,cause you say so? Ward also ducked Dirrell and Bute.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:19 PM   #17
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so did Ward against Kessler where he was allowed by the referee to headbutt freely,not to mention his gift decision over a cab driver Boone who even flored him.
Here we go with this bull****. Ward beats any version of Kessler he's just a nightmare matchup for him. If you know how to ****yze fighters instead of posting irrational and delusional troll **** you would see that ward would beat Kessler 10 out of 10 times. Ward is the second most complete fighter in the game behind PBF. He can fight at all ranges with good footwork defense and a high ring IQ.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:21 PM   #18
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why,cause you say so? Ward also ducked Dirrell and Bute.
Shut the **** up dumbass. Ward didn't dukc Bute and Dirrell is the one who didn't want the fight. Bute needed to prove himself and he failed miserably against Froch when he tried. Ward wold beat Bute worse than PBF beat Gatti. Bute is the biggest hypejob since Ottke. Just stop it you idiotic know nothing troll.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:22 PM   #19
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Its early days for Ward but at this time Ottke is the greater fighter in my opinion. I expect Ward will get rated higher just for being American, but looking at everything as it stands and that Ottke was in a tougher era, Ottke holds a lead.
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1. It was only Ottkes 13th fight when he won a world title

Consider how A Ward is raved about. Ward has had 25 fights, by this time Ottke had made 12 defences.
If Johnson beats Froch he will be in the S6 finals and if Ward was to beat Johnson it would be considered a big win, but Ottke beat Johnson at SMW back in 99.

2. Ottke made 21 title defences and was a winner of 22 world title fights

Consider how Hopkins MW reign is thought to be special yet Ottke had more SMW title victories than Hopkins had MW victories and overall fought better opposition

3. Ottkes reign was impressive when you consider he wasnt a puncher and didnt have an equalizer in his fists.

Look at who Ottke with feather fists beat
C Brewer the then IBF SMW champ for the title, beaten twice
G Johnson who went on to become the Ring & IBF LHW champ
S Branco who went on to become the WBA LHW champ
A Mundine who went on to become the 2 time WBA SMW champ
B Mitchell the then WBA SMW champ and 2 time WBA champ
R Reid the former WBC SMW champ and still world class
A Krajnc the former WBO MW champ (a smaller fighter)
M L****n world class who went on to become European champ
R Markussen world class who went on to become European champ
T Tate beaten twice
D Starie
J Butler
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:23 PM   #20
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Here we go with this bull****. Ward beats any version of Kessler he's just a nightmare matchup for him. If you know how to ****yze fighters instead of posting irrational and delusional troll **** you would see that ward would beat Kessler 10 out of 10 times. Ward is the second most complete fighter in the game behind PBF. He can fight at all ranges with good footwork defense and a high ring IQ.
then why did he headbutted Kessler for a tehnical decision?maybe cause he looks like **** in championship rounds?this is why he works with Conte btw,cause he has stamina problems and he needs "the medicine"
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:35 PM   #21
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the yanks keep telling us that a chmpion like Ward doesn't have to travel.ok then,if Ward doesn't have to travel neither did Ottke.let's see their resume a bit and decide who's better

Ottke
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doesn't own a passport
feather fisted
had some controversial decisions
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has fought 6 world champions
21 title defenses
won WBA and IBF


Warddke
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doesn't own a passport
feather fisted
had some controversial decisions and biased referees
he was the only one out of 9 fighters who didn't had to travel

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has fought 3 world champions
4 title defenses
won WBA and WBC

it looks to me that Ottke is mile ahead of Ward.if you study the names on their resume Ottke will be even more ahead

Ottke - Reid,Mitchell,Mundine,Johnson,Brewer
Ward - Kessler,Froch,Abraham
My goodness, man. Your posts absolutely ooze of whine.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:06 PM   #22
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I think people forget what Ottke did in his career, which is incredible when you think how old he was when he turned pro
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