Canelo vs Ortiz IS ON for sep 15, showtime ppv.

[Cut Me Mick]

This fight is going to be epic. I would give Ortiz a pretty good chance.

[achillesthegreat]

I respect Ortiz but he sholdn't be going up to 154. Loads of big winnable fights at 147. Pac is smaller, as is Bradley, he has already beaten Berto, Alexander and Maidana would be moving up like him, Brook is an unknown etc

154 guys tend to be middleweights in disguise. Do many 140 fighters do well at 154? Pac yes, Cotto yes, Floyd yes but they are the best of a generation. I wonder how many contenders/titlists from 140 could cut it at 154? I find 140 tend to be smaller guys like Pryor, Hatton, Tszyu etc They should mix it up with 135 and at best 147.

Generally speaking as Ortiz might do great but Canelo is a stocky dude who everyone discusses middleweight and fights vs Chavez rather than smaller guys.

At least Ortiz and Canelo should come to fight. Not sure about ORtizs mental state if he finds himself in with a bigger, stronger, more powerful fighter. He must remember speed kills.

[ScouseLad]

Really good fight this. Surely sky will have this as part of their deal?

[Tony Bellew]

Good scrap this, I'm warming to Ortiz is ahead when he gets stopped in this one...

[Matt Ldn]

I think Canelos patience will hinder him here if Ortiz fights intelligently. Good fight better than the Williams fight IMO

[Broxi]

Now this is a fight I can get up for, now we'll get to see what Canelo is made of.

[Primadonna Kool]

Ortiz wins this over 12 rounds, in a good competitive fight.

[Del Boy]

What about the Lopez fight?

[ishy]

Originally Posted by Del Boy

What about the Lopez fight?

Still going ahead so Lopez could put a spanner in the works

[sud2002]

This match up is AWESOME!

[BlackBrenny]

I see Canelo eating Ortiz alive

[Lilo]

Good fight. Ortiz can bang and I think he will test Canelo's chin but will prove too strong for Ortiz.

Canelo should be forced to fight Lara after this it will have been well over a year since his last mandatory. Look at Golden Boy to make a unification fight to avoid this a la Garcia/Khan/Olusegun. The Bundrage/Spinks winner being the best bet.

[Phill-Mitchell]

I think a lot of people will be surprised when ortiz is bigger on the night

[Lilo]

Originally Posted by Phill-Mitchell

I think a lot of people will be surprised when ortiz is bigger on the night

Yeah, I think they'll be close in terms of in-the-ring weight but I still think Canelo will be stronger.

[Phill-Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Lilo

Yeah, I think they'll be close in terms of in-the-ring weight but I still think Canelo will be stronger.

Possibly I just don't know with ortiz he's a proper meathead I'll never know how he made 140