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Old 06-12-2012, 04:13 PM   #16
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I respect Ortiz but he sholdn't be going up to 154. Loads of big winnable fights at 147. Pac is smaller, as is Bradley, he has already beaten Berto, Alexander and Maidana would be moving up like him, Brook is an unknown etc

154 guys tend to be middleweights in disguise. Do many 140 fighters do well at 154? Pac yes, Cotto yes, Floyd yes but they are the best of a generation. I wonder how many contenders/titlists from 140 could cut it at 154? I find 140 tend to be smaller guys like Pryor, Hatton, Tszyu etc They should mix it up with 135 and at best 147.

Generally speaking as Ortiz might do great but Canelo is a stocky dude who everyone discusses middleweight and fights vs Chavez rather than smaller guys.

At least Ortiz and Canelo should come to fight. Not sure about ORtizs mental state if he finds himself in with a bigger, stronger, more powerful fighter. He must remember speed kills.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:02 PM   #17
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Really good fight this. Surely sky will have this as part of their deal?
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:10 PM   #18
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Good scrap this, I'm warming to Ortiz is ahead when he gets stopped in this one...
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:18 PM   #19
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I think Canelos patience will hinder him here if Ortiz fights intelligently. Good fight better than the Williams fight IMO
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:41 PM   #20
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Now this is a fight I can get up for, now we'll get to see what Canelo is made of.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:49 PM   #21
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Ortiz wins this over 12 rounds, in a good competitive fight.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:05 PM   #22
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What about the Lopez fight?
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:11 PM   #23
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What about the Lopez fight?
Still going ahead so Lopez could put a spanner in the works
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:29 PM   #24
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This match up is AWESOME!
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:11 PM   #25
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I see Canelo eating Ortiz alive
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:45 PM   #26
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Good fight. Ortiz can bang and I think he will test Canelo's chin but will prove too strong for Ortiz.

Canelo should be forced to fight Lara after this it will have been well over a year since his last mandatory. Look at Golden Boy to make a unification fight to avoid this a la Garcia/Khan/Olusegun. The Bundrage/Spinks winner being the best bet.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:30 AM   #27
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I think a lot of people will be surprised when ortiz is bigger on the night
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:45 AM   #28
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I think a lot of people will be surprised when ortiz is bigger on the night
Yeah, I think they'll be close in terms of in-the-ring weight but I still think Canelo will be stronger.
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:58 AM   #29
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Yeah, I think they'll be close in terms of in-the-ring weight but I still think Canelo will be stronger.
Possibly I just don't know with ortiz he's a proper meathead I'll never know how he made 140
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Old 06-13-2012, 03:03 AM   #30
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Alvarez should beat him up and stop him mid to late. Fun while it lasts.
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