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Old 06-14-2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, James Toney

All men who have mastered the counter right hand and right hand lead...where did they learn it from? They learned it by watching film of Archie Moore, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Ezzard Charles. They didn't learn these master techniques by watching film of Jess Willard, Luis Firpo, and Bill Brennan.
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Good point.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #3
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The lead right is Hopkins' biggest technical flaw by far, though...

But, yeah, Firpo is hardly a shining example to follow...
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Well OK then.
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Marciano > Dempsey
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:14 PM   #6
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Bill Miller, the trainer of toney (and an amateur Emmmanuel Stewart), was a huge fan of Ezzard Charles. I read once where Toney described it as "worshipping at the altar of Ezzard Charles."
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:23 PM   #7
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What exactly is the point of this thread?
Post #5.

The funny part is, Burt will probably never enter it based on the title.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:28 PM   #8
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Toney never really threw just a straight right hand lead like Hopkins or Jones unless you count rolling a right hand and coming back with his own right
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The funny part is, Burt will probably never enter it based on the title.
Burt will come in to tell us how Jones, Hopkins, and Toney would have been whupped by Al McCoy all on the same night.


(and he'll end the post by calling us all a bunch of bitches)
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Burt will come in to tell us how Jones, Hopkins, and Toney would have been whupped by Al McCoy all on the same night.


(and he'll end the post by calling us all a bunch of bitches)


I'm sick to the back teeth with Beanstock and co. consistently bringing up Ray Robinson each time the subject of Harry Wills is broached in regards to Dempsey.
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Old 06-15-2012, 02:57 AM   #12
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Ezzard charles wide left hook right straight was one of the best combos I've seen I'm 100% sure steward taught lewis the same combination, walcot is my 2nd favorite fighter and moore is my favorite p4p fighter I have most of their fights.
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