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Old 06-18-2012, 12:37 AM   #46
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Has anyone mentioned Jerry Quarry? Pugilistic dementia to the point that he couldn't tie his own shoes in his later days. Mike Quarry, same thing.

I believe Bobby Chacon also has had mental troubles. At one point he went missing for a week or more and turned up in Arizona with no memory of how he got there, IIRC.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:42 AM   #47
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I met Chuvalo when I was 12 but I didn't really understand what he had gone through. I'll dig up the polaroid.

Mickey Walker was picked up on the streets and the cops thought he was just some drunk dude but really he was suffering from effects in the boxing ring, mainly dementia.
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:34 AM   #48
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If Graziano claimed to have ever beaten up LaMotta then he was crazier than anyone you can name.
He claimed he did it numerous times.

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Old 06-18-2012, 06:00 AM   #49
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Herol Graham and Nigel Benn both attemted suicide after their careers ended. Benn then carried on the puzzling behaviour by becoming a preacher
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:16 AM   #50
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We often focus on the physical wounds that boxers suffer during their careers and after retirement. But the sport clearly takes a major phsychological toll, not just getting punched, but also the money woes, the pressures of fame, fear of losing, being abandoned by fans, and lust for long gone glory. Who were some fighters who lost their mental health to boxing?

I recall reading that Ad Wolgast spent the last decade of his life thinking he was training for a bout with Joe Gans, something like twenty years after Gans had passed away.

Terry McGovern suffered about a dozen differant nervous breakdowns, including several violent episodes directed at his family.

I met Gerry ****ey at the IBHOF. I'm glad the guy has his money still becausse talking with him it was clear that the guy has some kind of awful inferiority complex/self esteem issues probably from a combination of his abusive father, the Holmes loss, and the unwanted pressure of being a 'white hope'.

Any others?
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:40 PM   #51
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We often focus on the physical wounds that boxers suffer during their careers and after retirement. But the sport clearly takes a major phsychological toll, not just getting punched, but also the money woes, the pressures of fame, fear of losing, being abandoned by fans, and lust for long gone glory. Who were some fighters who lost their mental health to boxing?

I recall reading that Ad Wolgast spent the last decade of his life thinking he was training for a bout with Joe Gans, something like twenty years after Gans had passed away.

Terry McGovern suffered about a dozen differant nervous breakdowns, including several violent episodes directed at his family.

I met Gerry ****ey at the IBHOF. I'm glad the guy has his money still becausse talking with him it was clear that the guy has some kind of awful inferiority complex/self esteem issues probably from a combination of his abusive father, the Holmes loss, and the unwanted pressure of being a 'white hope'.

Any others?
a fantasy fight poster should be made for Wolgast vs Gans
be like a tribute
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:45 AM   #52
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Ad Wolgast in an insane asylum training for twenty years to fight a deceased Joe Gans
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:37 PM   #54
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I think all walks of life - and life in general - have an effect of people's mental health.
Lots of people succumb to mental illness.

Getting punched in the head can't help though.
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Old 12-06-2014, 03:02 PM   #55
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Ad Wolgast in an insane asylum training for twenty years to fight a deceased Joe Gans
Was only reading about this recently, very sad.

Can't believe nobody's mentioned Tyson.
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Old 12-06-2014, 03:20 PM   #56
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I think that when discussing the question of mental illness among former fighters, the subject of dementia should be excluded in order to bring more clarity to the issue. It is common knowledge that there were a huge number of former fighters who had some form of dementia, but what I want to know is if there were fighters who suffered from depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia or some other type of mental illness besides a form of dementia.

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Old 12-06-2014, 03:42 PM   #57
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Alex Morrison, ***** Waren, Don King.
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:05 PM   #58
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I think that when discussing the question of mental illness among former fighters, the subject of dementia should be excluded in order to bring more clarity to the issue. It is common knowledge that there were a huge number of former fighters who had some form of dementia, but what I want to know is if there were fighters who suffered from depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia or some other type of mental illness besides a form of dementia.

- Chuck Johnston

Dementia is just one possible result of repeated head trauma. A lot of psychiatric issues can pop up on the spectrum as a result. Depression goes hand in hand with head trauma. Pituitary atrophy can cause hormonal changes that affect a person mentally and behaviorally. Impulsive behavior can result from frontal lobe damage. Parkinson's has a psychological affect too. Sometimes it's difficult to sort out what is and isn't influenced by damage in the ring.
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:29 PM   #59
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Sean O'Grady reportedly was reportedly prescribed/required to take powerful anti-depressants and anti-psychotics by his GP/local health authority after hearing auditory hallucinations telling him to kill in the mid to late 1990's.

Luckily, with medical treatment Sean has remained a functioning member of the boxing community.

Best a luck Bubblegum Kid, and keep ignoring those voices.
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Randy Turpin tried to kill his 4 year old daughter then turned the gun on himself.
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