The Brawl in Montreal

[ETM]

Originally Posted by natonic

Freddie Brown, who was Duran's trainer (along with Ray Arcel who usually came into camp late), stated that Duran was in just as good shape for the second fight as he was for the first. Brown and Arcel had a bit of a falling out over the post fight handling of Duran's quitting.

Source: Corner Men: The Great Boxing Trainers by Ronald Fried.

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Interesting.

I saw an interview with Carlos Eleta in which he claims to have gone to Don King to get the fight postponed because Duran was struggling to lose that excess weight.

Source; Beyond the Glory- Roberto Duran.

Not sure why the fight would need to be postponed if he was in top shape.

[Ricky42791]

Originally Posted by ETM

Interesting.

I saw an interview with Carlos Eleta in which he claims to have gone to Don King to get the fight postponed because Duran was struggling to lose that excess weight.

Source; Beyond the Glory- Roberto Duran.

Not sure why the fight would need to be postponed if he was in top shape.

I saw this too, they appointed Duran a doctor who forced him to get down to 147 gave him diuretics tiny portions etc. No excuses I mean duran got himself in that condition by his own bad choices but Duran was 50% at best.

[natonic]

Originally Posted by ETM

Interesting.

I saw an interview with Carlos Eleta in which he claims to have gone to Don King to get the fight postponed because Duran was struggling to lose that excess weight.

Source; Beyond the Glory- Roberto Duran.

Not sure why the fight would need to be postponed if he was in top shape.

I'll post more info from the Freddie Brown interview tonight. I'm not claiming that Brown's word is gospel (but he was his day to day trainer). It seems there are multiple stories even within Duran's camp on the 2nd fight and my point is, the stomach ache story over time seems to gain more acceptance but it's far from concrete.

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[JudgeDredd]

Perhaps the single greatest win in history.

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by turbotime

It was more competitive than close. There is a distinct difference IMO and a Clear Duran win.

[ETM]

Originally Posted by Ricky42791

I saw this too, they appointed Duran a doctor who forced him to get down to 147 gave him diuretics tiny portions etc. No excuses I mean duran got himself in that condition by his own bad choices but Duran was 50% at best.

True.

Duran was a grown man and a experianced champion. His excess partying was his own fault. Leonard took advantage of it.


Had Duran come in at 100% condition and focus Ray may have still beat him with different tactics. It wouldve been one helluva a fight though and it wouldve went distance everytime.

[Senor Pepe']

I always thought the scoring was 'slightly jaded' in favor of Ray Leonard.

Roberto Duran did receive the scores by;

Judge Harry Gibbs.............145-144 (6-5-4 in Rounds)
Judge Angelo Poletti..........148-147 (3-2-10 in Rounds)
Judge Raymond Beldeyrou...146-144 (6-4-5 in Rounds)

The man below, who was the non-scoring Referee, later revealed his own
scorecard, which was the proper scoring for Robert Duran

146-143 (7-4-4 in Rounds)

[Thread Stealer]

Duran won clearly IMO, although Leonard fought well.