The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread - Page 2

Stoo · 08-10-2012, 05:50 AM

Thanks, always loved Pedro when I discovered MMA and started watching the earlier UFC events

rusty nails · 08-10-2012, 07:04 AM

huge heart and heavy hands. a true warrior

PIRA · 08-10-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty nails

huge heart and heavy hands. a true warrior

A nice surgical striker with a lot of finish in him - even when not prime. A hell of a competitor who fought too long. Props Pedro!

rekcutnevets · 08-11-2012, 10:35 AM

I've looked all over for footage of the Couture and Rizzo fights, but so far the most I've found is this highlight someone made. It shows a fair amount of both their fights, but there is no commentary.

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You can also see some differences between then and now, in terms of technique. There wasn't as much wall walking back then, and I noticed Randy forces Rizzo to the wall after taking him down at one point. Today you see people trying to keep their opponent from getting to the cage. I have a friend, he is a bjj instructor, that told me Liddell is one of the first to use the cage to get back to his feet. Supposedly, Chuck had enough confidence in his chin that he would risk eating a shot or two to get back to his feet. My friend said he would like to see more people try to take advantage of that opening to hit the person in the face as he is trying to stand against the cage. He argues that once these fighters get to a certain position, they almost always get back to standing. Why not get a shot in, instead of holding on in vain?

Stoo · 08-11-2012, 04:44 PM

link dont work G'dammnit!...Was it one or two? Always though Pedro won the 1st fight, was gonna rescore it

rekcutnevets · 08-11-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

link dont work G'dammnit!...Was it one or two? Always though Pedro won the 1st fight, was gonna rescore it

It is mostly the first fight. I wish it would show the entire fight, but it does show the first 2 rounds in almost entirety and portions of all 5.

Stoo · 08-11-2012, 05:01 PM

Im going to re-watch that one and re-score it anyway. Was a great fight though, but probably the first instance of Pedro being a bit to passive and not fucking people up!

Did he have a case for being the best HW in the world at this point in your opinion. I wasnt watching then and not sure if there was internet forums around and such, but remember reading you were buying the PPV's back then

rekcutnevets · 08-11-2012, 05:03 PM

Does this work?

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Stoo · 08-11-2012, 05:07 PM

Nope

rekcutnevets · 08-11-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

Im going to re-watch that one and re-score it anyway. Was a great fight though, but probably the first instance of Pedro being a bit to passive and not fucking people up!

Did he have a case for being the best HW in the world at this point in your opinion. I wasnt watching then and not sure if there was internet forums around and such, but remember reading you were buying the PPV's back then

I don't know if there were any forums back then, and although PRIDE was going on then, I didn't start following the PRIDE shows until the summer of 2002.

So in my mind at the time, these were the best 2 heavyweights in the world. I would not have known Nogueira at that time. I don't even know if Nogueira would have beaten Coleman, or any one that I knew of, when this fight took place. I'll have to look at his record to see.

Stoo · 08-11-2012, 05:21 PM

Nog was in RINGS iirc but seeing as he lost to Hendo round that time dont think he'd be in top 10 contention.

Off the top of my head guys like Coleman, Shammy, Randleman, Igor, Kerr, Heath, Gilbert, Erikson, Frye, Ricco, Josh and Arlovski were probably the top guys around that time. May have missed a few

rekcutnevets · 08-11-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

Nope

Oh well, I tried.

rekcutnevets · 08-11-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

Nog was in RINGS iirc but seeing as he lost to Hendo round that time dont think he'd be in top 10 contention.

Off the top of my head guys like Coleman, Shammy, Randleman, Igor, Kerr, Heath, Gilbert, Erikson, Frye, Ricco, Josh and Arlovski were probably the top guys around that time. May have missed a few

I wouldn't have know who Herring, Vovchanchyn, or Nogueria was when Rizzo fought Couture.

Rizzo had beaten Coleman and Barnett. Couture had defeated Mo, who had defeated Coleman. Couture had also defeated Randleman. I would have thought these guys were the best around back then.

Stoo · 08-11-2012, 05:39 PM

I really wish Igor v Pedro would have happened in 01, probably the two best strikers in the game at that point at HW

rekcutnevets · 08-11-2012, 06:11 PM

That would have been a treat.

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08-10-2012, 05:50 AM	#16
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,950 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread Thanks, always loved Pedro when I discovered MMA and started watching the earlier UFC events
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08-10-2012, 07:04 AM	#17
rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: dunno..where am i??? Posts: 6,723 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread huge heart and heavy hands. a true warrior
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08-11-2012, 10:35 AM	#19
rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,550 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread I've looked all over for footage of the Couture and Rizzo fights, but so far the most I've found is this highlight someone made. It shows a fair amount of both their fights, but there is no commentary. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] You can also see some differences between then and now, in terms of technique. There wasn't as much wall walking back then, and I noticed Randy forces Rizzo to the wall after taking him down at one point. Today you see people trying to keep their opponent from getting to the cage. I have a friend, he is a bjj instructor, that told me Liddell is one of the first to use the cage to get back to his feet. Supposedly, Chuck had enough confidence in his chin that he would risk eating a shot or two to get back to his feet. My friend said he would like to see more people try to take advantage of that opening to hit the person in the face as he is trying to stand against the cage. He argues that once these fighters get to a certain position, they almost always get back to standing. Why not get a shot in, instead of holding on in vain?
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08-11-2012, 04:44 PM	#20
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,950 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread link dont work G'dammnit!...Was it one or two? Always though Pedro won the 1st fight, was gonna rescore it
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08-11-2012, 05:01 PM	#22
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,950 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread Im going to re-watch that one and re-score it anyway. Was a great fight though, but probably the first instance of Pedro being a bit to passive and not fucking people up! Did he have a case for being the best HW in the world at this point in your opinion. I wasnt watching then and not sure if there was internet forums around and such, but remember reading you were buying the PPV's back then
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08-11-2012, 05:03 PM	#23
rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,550 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread Does this work? [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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08-11-2012, 05:07 PM	#24
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,950 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread Nope
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08-11-2012, 05:21 PM	#26
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,950 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread Nog was in RINGS iirc but seeing as he lost to Hendo round that time dont think he'd be in top 10 contention. Off the top of my head guys like Coleman, Shammy, Randleman, Igor, Kerr, Heath, Gilbert, Erikson, Frye, Ricco, Josh and Arlovski were probably the top guys around that time. May have missed a few
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08-11-2012, 05:39 PM	#29
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,950 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread I really wish Igor v Pedro would have happened in 01, probably the two best strikers in the game at that point at HW
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08-11-2012, 06:11 PM	#30
rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,550 vCash: 1000	Re: The Pedro Rizzo appreciation thread That would have been a treat.
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