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Old 06-24-2012, 09:16 PM   #46
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Default Re: My top 10 Heavyweights of all time.

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Tyson
5. Dempsey
6. Lewis
7. Liston
8. Holmes
9. Marciano
10.Frazier
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:57 AM   #47
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Very subtle manbearpig.
It's hardly a great secret. I keep forgetting to log out of that account on my phone. My avatar is a manbearpig with a false moustache glasses disguise ffs, so congrats Columbo, you solved the mystery.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:47 AM   #48
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1. Jack Dempsey
2. Joe Louis
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. Jack Johnson
9. Evander Holyfield
10. John L. Sullivan


I know people will disagree with this but I feel this is the most accurate list that is capable of being put together. Discuss.
Good list.

If I had to make a critcism, I'd say Lennox Lewis is a little too high.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:22 AM   #49
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1. Jack Dempsey
2. Joe Louis
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. Jack Johnson
9. Evander Holyfield
10. John L. Sullivan


I know people will disagree with this but I feel this is the most accurate list that is capable of being put together. Discuss.
I'd beat a prime Jack Dempsey like he stole something! Liston beat one fighter in HW title fights. John L.? Really? No Mike Tyson?
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:32 AM   #50
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01 Louis
02 Ali

03 Holmes
04 Foreman

05 Frazier
06 Holyfield
07 Tyson

08 Lewis
09 Marciano
10 Johnson

11 Dempsey
12 Liston
13 Wlad
14 Jeffries

15 schmeling
16 Patterson

17 Walcott
18 Charles

19 Bowe
20 Vitali
Vitali would probably beat your #10
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:33 AM   #51
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opinions are like assholes... everybody has one and most of them stink!
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:35 AM   #52
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I'd beat a prime Jack Dempsey like he stole something! Liston beat one fighter in HW title fights. John L.? Really? No Mike Tyson?
I don't get it either Hookie. It's the hipster way.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:56 AM   #53
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1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Foreman
6. Marciano
7. Frazier
8. Klitschko
9. Liston
10. Johnson
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:02 PM   #54
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Asterion has always been one of the more intelligent posters
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:03 PM   #55
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My top 10

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Sonny Liston
7. George Foreman
8. Mike Tyson
9. Joe Frazier
10. Wladimir Klitschko
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:17 PM   #56
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Yes. Jack Dempsey with his enthralling wins over Willard, Firpo and Gibbons certainly outranks wins over Liston, Foreman and Frazier.

I don't understand that mentality. Ali not even in the top 3?
How do they even rate over Spinks, Holmes, Tucker, Ruddock?
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:27 PM   #57
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I don't even rate Tyson any higher than between 7th and 9th and he was everything grandpops wishes Dempsey was.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:29 PM   #58
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Contrarian to the point of being only that. The resume of Ali and Dempsey are so far apart in quality that Dempsey would have to look far better on film/head to head ability, and who looks that much better than Ali?


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what is the obsession with looks? The prettiest fighter doesn't always mean the best one or the most effective. How many people on here have even been in a ring before?
It's not about being the prettiest; watching film gives all the evidence we need as observers. The point he was making was that Ali ranks ahead of Dempsey on just about every criteria necessary for putting together these top 10 lists that the only saving grace Dempsey has is if he's remarkable on film, suggesting that his h2h ability would be the only reasonable claim to rank him ahead of Ali. And Ali, on film, looks far more effective against a wider range of styles and against far better competition.


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Vitali would probably beat your #10
Johnson is a spoiler, he's far more effective than most people give him credit, not to mention that he has incredible stamina, and is a master at feinting. He's an old school fighter that you can take and plug into any era and he's earn a title shot and depending on the era, upset the champion.

My List:

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Mike Tyson
7. Lennox Lewis
8. George Foreman
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Joe Frazier
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:37 PM   #59
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opinions are like assholes... everybody has one and most of them stink!

Alternatively like a fragrant deodourised armpit !
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My top 10

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Sonny Liston
7. George Foreman
8. Mike Tyson
9. Joe Frazier
10. Wladimir Klitschko
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My List:

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Mike Tyson
7. Lennox Lewis
8. George Foreman
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Joe Frazier
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They don't really.
Dempsey was good for his time and deserves to be ranked within the top 12 for sure. But c'mon, there's no way you can rank him above Ali. And keeping Ali not only out of the top 2, but of the top 3 is absolutely ridiculous. Harrowing stuff.

EDIT: It's akin to keeping Sugar Ray Robinson out of the top 10 P4P all time.
Agree completely. I find Senor Pepe' very entertaining and I'm genuinely not a fan of Ali but he's no worse than #2.
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