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Old 06-24-2012, 10:56 AM   #61
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why?

considering ortiz is not that great to begin with?


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Old 06-24-2012, 10:56 AM   #62
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43-1 if floyd finds his balls and steps up to get knocked the **** out by martinez.
hes already 42-1
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:33 AM   #63
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Floyd knew full well that it's the punches you don't see coming that hurt you the most
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:44 AM   #64
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Silly pactarded pieces of shit grasping at straws yet again....
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:06 PM   #65
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Don't mean any harm,,, even if I was ATG, if Ortiz would've head butted me, I would've sucka punched his ass too. Sorry, just my opinion. The head butt was a sucka move, therefore in return. Goodnight!
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:10 PM   #66
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why?

considering ortiz is not that great to begin with?


Uhmmmm ... sucker headbutt?
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:14 PM   #67
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why?

considering ortiz is not that great to begin with?



I will tell you why, look at Last night as soon as the fight got going as soon as Victor realized this Lopez kid is hitting me back and really wants this, Victor blatantly held Lopez down and hit him to the back of the head.

And continued to foul him though it wasnt called as much as it should have been. Knowing this its safe to agree that Mayweather was in the right by sucker punching him and ending the fight.

I would rather get a real knock out then to have someone foul his way out, Honestly im over Floyd sucker punching him like that Victor is one dirty bastard with no heart.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:36 PM   #68
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I will tell you why, look at Last night as soon as the fight got going as soon as Victor realized this Lopez kid is hitting me back and really wants this, Victor blatantly held Lopez down and hit him to the back of the head.

And continued to foul him though it wasnt called as much as it should have been. Knowing this its safe to agree that Mayweather was in the right by sucker punching him and ending the fight.

I would rather get a real knock out then to have someone foul his way out, Honestly im over Floyd sucker punching him like that Victor is one dirty bastard with no heart.
Bingo, these idiots wanted Floyd to be soft and NOT retaliate, furthermore no one brings up the facts that

1. Ortiz was looking for a way out and quit in there, and was happy the fight was over and ended the way it did a he got an excuse.

2. Ortiz was LOOKING RIGHT at Mayweather, when Floyd scowled at him him and hit him the first time, he went looking to the ref to help him out.

3. Ortiz threw a legit sucker punch at Mayweather after he landed his flying headbutt.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:58 PM   #69
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why?

considering ortiz is not that great to begin with?


They should change that fight to a No Contest, it's an utterly invalid, worthless, fake win. Joe Cortez should be in a home somewhere with a nappy on getting fed chicken soup with someone wiping his chin for him, not refereeing major boxing matches in Las Vegas. Senile old fool.
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:18 PM   #70
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Bingo, these idiots wanted Floyd to be soft and NOT retaliate, furthermore no one brings up the facts that

1. Ortiz was looking for a way out and quit in there, and was happy the fight was over and ended the way it did a he got an excuse.

2. Ortiz was LOOKING RIGHT at Mayweather, when Floyd scowled at him him and hit him the first time, he went looking to the ref to help him out.

3. Ortiz threw a legit sucker punch at Mayweather after he landed his flying headbutt.

I couldnt believe it, He held Lopez down with one hand looked at him almost as if he thought not to do it and clearly hits him on the back of the head.

The ****ing Ref, "it was a glancing shot" a shot to the back of the head is dangerous and that wasnt glancing all four knuckles made clean contact with the back of Lopezs head.

Glad he quit like a bitch he was hitting him in the back of the head alot......

One thing is for sure, this last couple of weeks has not been good to Slugger
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:24 PM   #71
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BUT BUT BUT froid is top 50 ATG?

He needed a sucker punch to defeat a bum, glass jawed ortiz?

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Old 06-24-2012, 01:31 PM   #72
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I couldnt believe it, He held Lopez down with one hand looked at him almost as if he thought not to do it and clearly hits him on the back of the head.

The ****ing Ref, "it was a glancing shot" a shot to the back of the head is dangerous and that wasnt glancing all four knuckles made clean contact with the back of Lopezs head.

Glad he quit like a bitch he was hitting him in the back of the head alot......

One thing is for sure, this last couple of weeks has not been good to Slugger
I actually do hate Ortiz, I used to not like Floyd cause how he did SSM, who is a cool dude but the ortiz fight changed that, I hope he gets KTFO again. As for slugger, what can you say dude is crying ...
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:41 PM   #73
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I actually do hate Ortiz, I used to not like Floyd cause how he did SSM, who is a cool dude but the ortiz fight changed that, I hope he gets KTFO again. As for slugger, what can you say dude is crying ...
Not sure if I hate him in that sense but I could give a **** less about Ortiz, He is ****ing fake...

Rewind, What did we hear the entire time during Ortiz vs Mayweather 24/7?
My mother left when I was 7

I came home and my dad was gone.....

I got custody of my little brother, Yeah I am a good kid blah blah blah.....

On the showtime all access Victors story is quite modified, still maintains his mother left when he was 7, but states my father he wasnt around that much.
I have a sister....

What the ****? I mean I knew he had a sister but still its an entirely different story the boy is ****ing fake, he was selling HBO that shit and May was about to expose that shit and started to during their final presser.

As far as Mosley, my kid has been Chasing Jr for a rematch for almost a ****ing year, we fought Jr who is a full fledged Middle weight, which we were welter, took the fight cus nobody wanted to fight Jr, we didnt have anybody in our division to fight.

Jack and Shane sr, well let me put it to you this way they made their presence felt there. I do not believe we lost, but hey it comes with it I guess. Problem we have today is my kids below welter now 138 so chances of a rematch are very unlikely.

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Old 06-24-2012, 01:44 PM   #74
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If Vic doesn't headbutt Mayweather (which he had been doing from the second round on), and then attempt to issue a second apology after Mayweather had already accepted the first one, then the fight doesn't end in that particular manner.

So the quick answer to the question is because Ortiz placed himself directly in that situation.
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:45 PM   #75
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Don't mean any harm,,, even if I was ATG, if Ortiz would've head butted me, I would've sucka punched his ass too. Sorry, just my opinion. The head butt was a sucka move, therefore in return. Goodnight!
What he said!
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