"Victor has no heart" - Josesito Lopez

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by Boxmaster

First it depends on if the jaw was broken and how bad. Fractured jaw yes I think the fight would be a go. Broken like Abrahams jaw probably not.

But he didn't even let a doctor determine how bad it was. They will wire his jaw shut, he will be fine but if he would have won this fight he would still be in line for a big money fight against Berto or whomever. Now his career is effectively destroyed just like Margarito's was when he used those handwraps and just like Kermit Cintron when he jumped out of the ring.


Fans only put up with so much of this shit before the fans quit.

Ortiz had surgery today. The fight was off regardless if ortiz "gutted it out"

[lester proctor]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Ortiz had surgery today. The fight was off regardless if ortiz "gutted it out"

Yep. But he would have walked away with a win, increased marketability and respect if he'd fought on. He'd still be a viable challenger for Canelo in the future. Not saying he should have, he keeps getting second chances. But at some point people will realize this guy is a lot more miss than hit.

[Genaro G]

I heard the broken jaw is pretty bad. My thoughts and prayers go out to Vic. The kid fought till the end. Much respect.

[knotty150]

I think some people here a missing certain implications with a broken jaw.

If it's broken and ur having it repeatedly smacked:

1. Its going to seriously hurt
2. It might well become irreparably damaged, meaning career over.

Regardless of what he did against Mayweather and Maidana, a broken jaw is a broken jaw. Even if he came out and said "yea I quit against May and Maidana, couldnt be bothered really," it still doesnt deter from the fact that a broken jaw is gruesome!!!

[Jordan_Davies]

Originally Posted by Genaro G

"He tried to intimidate me but it didnt work."

Leave it in the ring bro... Not even concerned about the well-being of Victor whatsoever? No class at all. Just lost me as a fan right there.

I too never liked Vic but I have no right to call him a quitter for not wanting to continue with a broken jaw, unable to close his mouth. Call the other fighters who did whatever you'd like, a warrior or whatever but dont call Vic a quitter for this.

Im curious if you personally would have WANTED to see him go into the 10th with a shattered mouth, hanging down like that. I personally wouldnt. And i also feel i have no right to call him a quitter for choosing to not continue. Even as a fan and paying customer. Even him being a professional and doing this for a living. Sorry but no i wont call him a quitter for that. Nothing against you all, but thats just me

Well hes right, Victor did the smart thing but a lot of other fighters had too much pride to lose. Having no class would be staring at the back of someones head and throwing a punch at it . . . I dont blame him if hes a little pissed off

[pejevan]

ortiz was owned by a junior welter 2 weeks notice replacement fighter. and tweetybi/rd actually fought him?

[Flatlander]

Originally Posted by TheGreat

Ortiz is nothing but a frontrunner

Frontrunner to where?

[sugarngold]

Ortiz was a cheating dirty fighting fuckwad this whole fight so I don't see how some of you fags like the OP are coming off all bleeding heart for him.