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Old 06-27-2012, 02:25 AM   #76
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if you have black in your blood and look like a light skin black person

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:35 AM   #77
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whites trying to claim Ward and Martinez would be calling them Splcks and naggers if they werent athletes. only when theyre doing good is when they want to claim them, and they hardly ever root for them when up against a pure white european. **** off putas.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:38 AM   #78
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You're not very bright, are you?
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:50 AM   #79
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martinez is as white as any of the euro latin countries. He is very athletic (quick, good balance, strong), the same as was Joe Calzaghe.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:51 AM   #80
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whites trying to claim Ward and Martinez would be calling them Splcks and naggers if they werent athletes. only when theyre doing good is when they want to claim them, and they hardly ever root for them when up against a pure white european. **** off putas.
you are troubled. seek professional help.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:57 AM   #81
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For the people who think south Americans can't be white then they need to look at the history of emmigration to the countries there.

The majority of people in Argentina, Paraguay,Uruguay and southern Brazil are an overwhelming majority of Europeans. Spanish, Portuguese, Ukrainians, Poles, Italians etc. **** even the Third Reich fled there after WW2.

Also I love how a few people claim white people try to claim mixed race people as there own (Ward,etc) yet are doing the same themselves.

And what is it with people bragging about being from the 'hood', can't believe people actually want to come from/live in a shithole!

P.s. this should be in the lounge.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:59 AM   #82
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For the people who think south Americans can't be white then they need to look at the history of emmigration to the countries there.

The majority of people in Argentina, Paraguay,Uruguay and southern Brazil are an overwhelming majority of Europeans. Spanish, Portuguese, Ukrainians, Poles, Italians etc. **** even the Third Reich fled there after WW2.

Also I love how a few people claim white people try to claim mixed race people as there own (Ward,etc) yet are doing the same themselves.

And what is it with people bragging about being from the 'hood', can't believe people actually want to come from/live in a shithole!



P.s. this should be in the lounge.


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Old 06-27-2012, 03:07 AM   #83
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There is no "pure race" because there is no such thing as race as a biological category. this is the scientific consensus in both the genetics and physical anthropology communities. Race and ethnicity are social constructions. However, race - white, black, Asian - and ethnicity - Hispanic, for instance - are not the same kinds of social constructions. At their intersection we find both white Hispanics and nonwhite Hispanics. Martinez is a white Hispanic. He is clearly of European ancestry, and all indigenous Europeans are considered white. Spaniards are white. Etc.

But having said all this, this is really an absurd argument that borders on racist. Blacks are no more or less athletic than whites. There is nothing special about blacks that makes them more athletic than whites or vice versa.
Are you really sure about The last part? In that case why is it just black people in the top competing in the 100 m. Shouldn't be any differens even if it is a different sport they are just as athletic right?
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:10 AM   #84
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Latins, a people inhabiting ancient Italy
Actually, they didn't even call themselves "Latins" back then. Latino is a term for people who speak a language derived from classical Latin (i.e. French, Spanish, Portugese or Italian), it's not a racial term, really. Most people in Argentina and Uruguay are Caucasian or some mix thereof and as far as I remember african-americans are around 40% white genetically while most white folks in the US have got some African blood in them as well - "race" is quite meaningless as a term in America these days. The whole "white, latino, black, asian" thing is more cultural, imo.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:17 AM   #85
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There is no "pure race" because there is no such thing as race as a biological category. this is the scientific consensus in both the genetics and physical anthropology communities. Race and ethnicity are social constructions. However, race - white, black, Asian - and ethnicity - Hispanic, for instance - are not the same kinds of social constructions. At their intersection we find both white Hispanics and nonwhite Hispanics. Martinez is a white Hispanic. He is clearly of European ancestry, and all indigenous Europeans are considered white. Spaniards are white. Etc.

But having said all this, this is really an absurd argument that borders on racist. Blacks are no more or less athletic than whites. There is nothing special about blacks that makes them more athletic than whites or vice versa.
Please do not let the person who always talks about slick black style or whatever he calls it read this or he will be highly offended and you will never hear the end from him.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:14 AM   #86
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Do people really think People from Argentina aren't white? They are whiter than Americans. Next thing you will hear is Kelly Pavlik is black
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:45 AM   #87
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Quick Lesson For All You Morons Who Don't Have A Clue:

Hispanics/Latinos are not a race. It is a cultural designation, again, not a race. Which means Hispanics/Latinos can be White, Black, Asian, Native, Mixed... whatever.

I will now show you three athletes who are HISPANIC, but obviously different races.

"Big Papi", baseball player for the BoSox [Obviously of African descent- i.e. BLACK]
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Juan Manuel Del Potro, tennis player from Argentina [Obviously of European descent- i.e. WHITE]
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Maradona [Mother was Italian Immigrant and Father was Native Indian, so he's a Mestizo Mix]
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All three of the people above are Hispanics/Latinos, but they are different races.

So, yes, Sergio is a Hispanic/Latino, but as far as his race goes... he's definitely European (White). He might have a Native ancestor somewhere in his lineage, though, I don't know his whole history... but just by looking at him you can tell he's of mostly European descent..

Class is now over. F'ing Christ.
Thank you sir! I had a strong feeling when I started this thread characterizing Sergio as "white" that it would largely serve as a lesson on race as opposed to being a debate about boxing and athleticism among white boxers. I am embarassed that my fellow Americans are so ignorant when it comes to race. Americans need to open up a book and travel more. I have actually heard people say so and so "isn't white he's European". As if America invented the white race when Europeans immigrated here. Anyone of European decent is white! Sergio is of Greek and Spanish decent. The last time I checked, Greece and Spain were in Europe. Case closed guys.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:00 AM   #88
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that's like saying the Japanese are white.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:06 AM   #89
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that's like saying the Japanese are white.
No it's not even close to that... try again
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:14 AM   #90
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that's like saying the Japanese are white.
Japan (like Argentina, Mexico, U.S.) is a COUNTRY not a race. Yes, the vast majority of people who inhabit Japan are Asian, but if a white or black person moved to Japan and became a Japanese citizen it wouldn't change a damn ounce of their DNA. Get it?
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