Is sergio martinez the most athletic white boxer ever?

[Montero]

Originally Posted by Sinew

" david ' big papi ' is not black; he is latino"

Exactly! He's a latino yes, but that's not his "race" - he's BLACK.

I love when Americans say things like "there aren't enough African Americans in professional baseball today" or whatever. I'm like YES THERE IS, it's just that they're all from Latin America!

[Azzer85]

You people are so disrespectful

There is only one white fighter that matters

SNV

[antonio8904]

Snv

[Hercegovac]

Originally Posted by MrMarvel

There is no "pure race" because there is no such thing as race as a biological category. this is the scientific consensus in both the genetics and physical anthropology communities. Race and ethnicity are social constructions. However, race - white, black, Asian - and ethnicity - Hispanic, for instance - are not the same kinds of social constructions. At their intersection we find both white Hispanics and nonwhite Hispanics. Martinez is a white Hispanic. He is clearly of European ancestry, and all indigenous Europeans are considered white. Spaniards are white. Etc.

But having said all this, this is really an absurd argument that borders on racist. Blacks are no more or less athletic than whites. There is nothing special about blacks that makes them more athletic than whites or vice versa.

Liberal hippy logic...

Watch the Olympics next month, how much you want to bet that a west African descendant will win the sprinting events, an east African descendant will win he marathon events, and an eastern European descendant will win the weight living events.

Oh but now I'm 'borderline racist' for speaking the truth?

[they_killed_kenny]

Originally Posted by Revolver

Quick Lesson For All You Morons Who Don't Have A Clue:

Hispanics/Latinos are not a race. It is a cultural designation, again, not a race. Which means Hispanics/Latinos can be White, Black, Asian, Native, Mixed... whatever.

I will now show you three athletes who are HISPANIC, but obviously different races.

"Big Papi", baseball player for the BoSox [Obviously of African descent- i.e. BLACK]
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Juan Manuel Del Potro, tennis player from Argentina [Obviously of European descent- i.e. WHITE]
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cgyBfTsd5p.../del-potro.jpg

Maradona [Mother was Italian Immigrant and Father was Native Indian, so he's a Mestizo Mix]
http://www.5aside.co.uk/uploaded/ima...na-smaller.jpg


All three of the people above are Hispanics/Latinos, but they are different races.

So, yes, Sergio is a Hispanic/Latino, but as far as his race goes... he's definitely European (White). He might have a Native ancestor somewhere in his lineage, though, I don't know his whole history... but just by looking at him you can tell he's of mostly European descent..

Class is now over. F'ing Christ.

Very good post!

[Caestus]

This thread again...the people seems to don't learn...

But whatever here we go with the basics (excuse my bad english, as I excuse you ignorance):

White
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First example...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ypC3bTCWOX.../s320/kiko.jpg

"Is not white! is not white! black hair tanned skin!"... Yes buddies, he is white and is not even south american or mexican, is the european champion.From a latin country (Spain), and therfore he talk spanish so maybe for americans that makes him an indian or something (he is latin, but latin is languaje a cultural not a race you know).


A few more examples...

Johnny Tapia:

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Antonio Margarito:

http://espndeportes-assets.espn.go.c...antonio_vt.jpg

Margarito even looks like Don Quijote.

[img]http://estaticos02.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/imagenes/2007/04/27/1177668082_0.jpg[img]

http://fightnews.com/wp-content/uploads/_coz8119.jpg



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Rubén Varon, spaniard boxer:

http://www.espabox.com/public_html/i...aron-Ruben.jpg

The curious case of Danny García:

Here an actual photo:

http://www.boxing360.com/blog/wp-con...nny_Garcia.jpg

And here...I found also a draw of him (well, supposedly), with black eyes and dark skin, probably made by an american from ESB...

http://dduran01.site90.net/wp-conten...nny-garcia.jpg

Lol the people cant even knows what they draws, blinded by their prejudiuces and ignorance.

Mixture of white and indian (called mestizo/s in spanish)...

http://www.notifight.com/artman/uplo...nzo410_001.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XX-uj0yVqF...andon_rios.jpg


With mestizos can be sometimes difficult to say.


Indians (Amerindians or natives from America)
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http://www.sitiosargentina.com.ar/im...s-monzon-2.jpg

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/fotos/mayorga446444.jpg

http://imgs.laprensa.com.ni/2011/01/...LB,photo01.jpg


Mixture of black and white (called mulato in spanish)
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http://sportofboxing.com/wp-content/.../calderon1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...dre_Ward_2.jpg

http://www.movingzenperu.com/wordpre...l-cotto-01.jpg


Latin (o) is not a race:

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Europe[/ame]



Examples of Latin American can be every with cultural bases in latin europe (for example language).Brazil is an example with his roots in Portugal.

Being more specific, there are Hispanic America (Hispanoamérica), who are culturally rooted in Spain (ie. Hispanic, hispanics).

There are an Anglo America (ex. Canadá, USA) Which are culturally and historically based mainly in Anglosaxon roots.


Caucasian (caucasoid):

For anthropologists,human groups from Ireland to Sri Lanka.The term white is usually used by the people to describe caucasians for Europe, wich skin is usually the lightest, but very variable.

[FinalBELL]

Do we have to argue about Ricky Hatton being white, No!

Do we have to argue about Kelly Pavlik being white, dont think so!

Do we have to argue about The Klitshkos being white, nope!

But if you have to argue about Sergio Martinez being white, than he obviously is not white.

[king khan]

Originally Posted by m8te

are you talking to me?

No; Im not talking to anybnody in particular.

[king khan]

Originally Posted by king khan

No; Im not talking to anybnody in particular.

just trying to help people understand the difference between culture, nationality, ethnicity, and "race."

[king khan]

Originally Posted by Caestus

This thread again...the people seems to don't learn...

But whatever here we go with the basics (excuse my bad english, as I excuse you ignorance):

White
------


First example...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ypC3bTCWOX.../s320/kiko.jpg

"Is not white! is not white! black hair tanned skin!"... Yes buddies, he is white and is not even south american or mexican, is the european champion.From a latin country (Spain), and therfore he talk spanish so maybe for americans that makes him an indian or something (he is latin, but latin is languaje a cultural not a race you know).


A few more examples...

Johnny Tapia:

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Antonio Margarito:

http://espndeportes-assets.espn.go.c...antonio_vt.jpg

Margarito even looks like Don Quijote.

[img]http://estaticos02.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/imagenes/2007/04/27/1177668082_0.jpg[img]

http://fightnews.com/wp-content/uploads/_coz8119.jpg



[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Rubén Varon, spaniard boxer:

http://www.espabox.com/public_html/i...aron-Ruben.jpg

The curious case of Danny García:

Here an actual photo:

http://www.boxing360.com/blog/wp-con...nny_Garcia.jpg

And here...I found also a draw of him (well, supposedly), with black eyes and dark skin, probably made by an american from ESB...

http://dduran01.site90.net/wp-conten...nny-garcia.jpg

Lol the people cant even knows what they draws, blinded by their prejudiuces and ignorance.

Mixture of white and indian (called mestizo/s in spanish)...

http://www.notifight.com/artman/uplo...nzo410_001.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XX-uj0yVqF...andon_rios.jpg


With mestizos can be sometimes difficult to say.


Indians (Amerindians or natives from America)
----------

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/fotos/mayorga446444.jpg

http://imgs.laprensa.com.ni/2011/01/...LB,photo01.jpg


Mixture of black and white (called mulato in spanish)
--------------------------

http://sportofboxing.com/wp-content/.../calderon1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...dre_Ward_2.jpg

http://www.movingzenperu.com/wordpre...l-cotto-01.jpg


Latin (o) is not a race:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]



Examples of Latin American can be every with cultural bases in latin europe (for example language).Brazil is an example with his roots in Portugal.

Being more specific, there are Hispanic America (Hispanoamérica), who are culturally rooted in Spain (ie. Hispanic, hispanics).

There are an Anglo America (ex. Canadá, USA) Which are culturally and historically based mainly in Anglosaxon roots.


Caucasian (caucasoid):

For anthropologists,human groups from Ireland to Sri Lanka.The term white is usually used by the people to describe caucasians for Europe, wich skin is usually the lightest, but very variable.

Does Cotto have some afro-ancestry? I guess he does kind of have some afro-features. . . I always thought he was mixture of Amerindian (the "native" Boricua), and Spaniard (European conquerers). . . Thought he was one of the boricuas who look about 75% amerindian/25% white. . .

But now that I look at him, he looks about 20 white/30 black/50 amerindian

[Rico Spadafora]

Sergio is slick and white. Handsome also. Deal with it.

[Cletis VanDamme]

Originally Posted by Azzer85

You people are so disrespectful

There is only one white fighter that matters

SNV

Wait! Some might tell you he's not white because he's Russian.

But since he kinda sucks (for a former World champion), i guess these retards won't object.

[Chempasillo]

is pacquiao white or brown...??

are japanese people white?

[king khan]

Originally Posted by Chempasillo

is pacquiao white or brown...??

are japanese people white?

Takashi Uchiyama looks white to me and very athletic, nevertheless not as much as Martinez.

http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/ap_photo/2...l/l4730604.jpg

He is asian (mongoloid) race. . .

Martinez is at least 90% caucasian.

Skin color is only one of the external factors indicative of "race."

[king khan]

Originally Posted by Rico Spadafora

Sergio is slick and white. Handsome also. Deal with it.

Well, he's not THAT slick. . He garners a 3-star rating on the slickness scale.

He's just exceptionally quick, especially in regards to foot speed.