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Old 06-26-2012, 10:19 PM   #16
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Default Re: Just rewatched. Pretty sure Victor's jaw broke end of the 9th. NOT 5/6!

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I always thought Roberto had the "Shits" in that fight??
(Upset stomach, tooo much booze bitches & blow??)
either that or sand in his vagina
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:47 PM   #17
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Default Re: Just rewatched. Pretty sure Victor's jaw broke end of the 9th. NOT 5/6!

It was broke in the 9th. He was trying to quit in the 7th and they told him to keep going. They're just trying to make him look better now. If it was broke in the seventh, BET YOUR ASS he would've quit at the end of that round. IDC, I'll still watch his next fight.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:52 PM   #18
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It was broke in the 9th. He was trying to quit in the 7th and they told him to keep going. They're just trying to make him look better now. If it was broke in the seventh, BET YOUR ASS he would've quit at the end of that round. IDC, I'll still watch his next fight.
So you dont think it could have been broke in one place in the 7th then again in the 9th?
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:53 PM   #19
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Default Re: Just rewatched. Pretty sure Victor's jaw broke end of the 9th. NOT 5/6!

He corrected himself mid interview and said that his jaw broke at the beginning of the 9th round. Not sure why anyone would think anything else.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:06 PM   #20
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The lies spin fast and furious in boxing.

Usually produced from speculation.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:09 PM   #21
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Either way it really doesn't matter. What we have entered is the PR spin zone. That is why it took two days to get a story. Its damage control. This story is to say that Victor fought valiantly for several rounds with a broken jaw, but after the second break it was too much. Then Garcia comes out and takes the blame, saying he should have stopped the fight earlier. That's all bullshit, because we know he didn't want to stop the fight at all. Though he probably should have so Victor didn't have too, its called protecting your fighter, which he is paid by Victor to do.

The ref or DR would have stopped that fight anyways if they saw that blood, it was only a matter of time, granted it would have looked better for ORtiz had somebody else stopped it, that should have been his corner, but they wanted to send him back out there for what? To be permanently damaged? That's absurd.

It was a hell of a fight, and what is getting lost in all this shit is that Lopez fought his ass off, and how tough that kid is. He was busted up too, and his eye was closed when they stopped that fight, he looked much worse for wear than Ortiz. He looked like Rocky Dennis[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for crissakes. They both need a good six months in my opinion to recover, and then they should get it on again, I'm sure it would be another war, which all of us fans love to see.
Rematch would be great if it was half the action this one was.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:11 PM   #22
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He corrected himself mid interview and said that his jaw broke at the beginning of the 9th round. Not sure why anyone would think anything else.
That's why I watched it again closely. I just can't find any indication that it was broken early in the round. He said he couldn't close his mouth once it was broke. Just watch the last of the 9th round and you seem him close his mouth pretty much right to the end.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:15 PM   #23
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Usually produced from speculation.
Yeah. In the end it may be the fans fault for not thinking the truth is good enough.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:17 PM   #24
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Yeah. In the end it may be the fans fault for not thinking the truth is good enough.



One day they lie to us, and the next day they tell the truth.



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Old 06-26-2012, 11:17 PM   #25
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I'm with you. We've been receiving straight spin last few days.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:28 PM   #26
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I'm with you. We've been receiving straight spin last few days.
Truth in simple terms. He put on a great fight, got his jaw broken and had to quit. Bazooka makes the most valid argument in that they had one minute to assess the situation and should have called in the doctor. The doctor would have probably stopped it. Garcia told Victor to go go on rather than call in the doctor so Victor had to take it into his own hands.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:44 PM   #27
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Default Re: Just rewatched. Pretty sure Victor's jaw broke end of the 9th. NOT 5/6!

I've been thinking about Freddy Roach's calm demeanor in the corner and how he probably would have handled it. He has laid out his technique before. He says nothing when he first goes in to give his fighter a chance to collect himself and calm down. He stays calm to help the fighter say calm. Little doubt he would have called the doctor in to assess the damage and perhaps buy a little more time.

Given what Victor said about his corner wanting him to go on, I'm tending to lay this one on Garcia.
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